So nostalgia versus the reality of the nineties.

No, I, I, yeah.

And I think a lot of like, yeah, I think there's so much insecurity and, and yeah, like the sense of, I mean, because I think in general, and we talked about this a little bit on pod meets world, but like in general, there was such a sense of like, mainstream normalcy right like what was what was like the normal way to be or the even the cool way to be right like there was like one model of that and like when I look at like my son who's now 11 like he and his friends like they really don't have a standard like they don't think of like there's one way to be in the world and I feel like back then we kind of did you know like we wouldn't have put it that way But like, if we really thought about it, like what we thought was like an attractive guy or an attractive girl, it would kind of be like one of two options.

And then everybody else was like a weirdo alternative.

You know what I mean? Like, and that's like, that's crazy that I, you know, and what I already hear is that like.

Will and I were probably helping contribute to the culture of like through the teen magazines and whatnot, like the culture of like what you're supposed to be like.

But meanwhile, we felt we were falling short.

the extreme example yes

All of a sudden, I'm going, oh, my God, Ryder, you're on to something here.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, no, that's horrible.

Um, yeah, man, I, you know, I just wanted to, I wanted to get back to, well, first, yeah, I mean, taking, taking the audience back to my own adolescence and my own stupidity as an adolescent was always the point.

Um, and you know, I, I think, That works for me doubly because on one hand, it's just a good narrative position to take because it draws people in.

Also because people think of me still as a teenager because they grew up with Boy Meets World.

And so I have this sort of cheat code that when I say...

See, that just shows your writing skills right there, because I totally believed in Mr. Eric Lidsky.

I mean-

... it's kind of a combination of the two 'cause there, you know, I, I always miss him.

You know, he's, he is, I'm not gonna s- ever gonna say was, he is my friend, um, and, and always will be.

Uh, he's still to this day I think the funniest person I've ever met in my life.

Um, and so I miss him as a friend every day, but as a, as a coworker and as somebody that could have joined us on this journey, there's always moments where we, y- y- it's like, you know, you wanna, you wanna turn to y- to your friend and say, "Do you remember this?" And he's not there.

So I think there's, there's specific moments as well, but for me it's this general just kind of, you know, emptiness of, of missing a friend and somebody that, that's very important to me.

So I'm, I, I'm, I'm hope- very hopeful that that door is not permanently shut-

Hearing you guys talk about this stuff has been great, and I'm curious whether this has changed your perception of the show as the rewatch has gone on and how you approach speaking, you know, on the show's behalf, yeah, as, as you've started to dig deeper into it.

Let's go."

Um, but I mean, essentially, on the, on the Boys Live podcast, um, they...

Uh, when they're talking about relationships, you can tell like how disconnected they are at this point.

Not just adding fragrance to a space, but shaping how a room feels the second you walk into it.

Pura is a smart home fragrance diffuser, but the smart part isn't really about the tech.

It's about what it does to a room.

I can choose from hundreds of premium fragrances from brands I already love, then set the scent intensity and schedule right from my phone.

The space responds to me, not the other way around.

The press screening.

Press screening.

So when the sort of battle had begun to buy the movie and everyone was freaking out.

And suddenly we're doing interviews where it's like, "You know, you have the hottest film of the festival.

How's it feel?" And all this sort of stuff.

It was interesting, it was the way reporters sort of...

I mean, I hadn't even seen the movie yet, so I didn't really have any sense of the quality or just the feeling, the overall vibe of the film.

I mean, what's it like trying to make that jump from television to film?

It's so funny.

It's so funny.

And, like, the show's ability to make awful actions incredibly likable is just unparalleled.

You know, I feel like a lot of what your show brought was, like, you know, the beginning of, like, cringe comedy or, like-

Yeah.

Like, everybody.

And the show is just so brilliant that it manages to pull that off and still have very comedic...

Like, I was laughing out loud, and I realized I have not laughed out loud even at comedy these days.