Yeah.

Um, so, um, yeah.

And that's been, oh, I'm talking off the top of my head here, but probably about coming up to 10 years or just over 10 years.

Um, and I suppose our point of difference, as I've come to understand a lot more since working for the company, is that w- what we're pro- You know, we're breeding, we're producing turf grass.

It's cool season predominant.

Well, yeah, at the moment exclusively cool season turf grass species that we're also breeding and developing on our site, the research farm at Kimi here.

So it's quite...

Yeah, yeah.

you.Will, how, how important is, uh, the soil as well in terms of selecting, uh, grass species? Like, you know, obviously climatic factors from above, but what, what about the, the soil?

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, very, very important.

Yeah.

Um, a lot of ... [laughs] 'Cause I, I mentioned those golf courses have gone to back to fine fescue, say, as, as their, as their species of choice.

They're all, they're all sand.

[laughs]