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Wendy Rogers

Wendy Rogers

Former Arizona State Senator

Oct 14, 2026

Ben Birkholm
Ben BirkholmCORRESPONDENT
56:09
Wendy, to the voters out there, what is your message to them? Why is this so critical, and what would you say to do?
56:15
We only had 23% turnout Republicans in the Arizona primary.
56:19
It's an absolute must, Ben, for 40% of Arizonans to turn out and vote.
56:25
We have to vote.
56:27
Every Arizonan needs to call five other Arizona Republican voters to get out and vote.
56:34
And if they say that they bring their, uh, ballot in on Election Day and drop it off, make sure they bring their driver's license so that, uh, their identity can be verified, and then the ballot doesn't have to undergo signature, uh, verification.
56:48
I got that bill passed.
60:50
Why now? Why in the r- lead up to the midterms, and what, what are the key takeaways?
40:20
Is that correct?
40:22
We are 37 minutes out of Bullhead City, and, uh, my husband's driving and we're, we're really rocking and rolling.
40:29
We're very excited to, uh, be headed there.
40:33
And here's the thing.
40:35
This is in a rural part of the state, which of course I relate to, and I've been knocking a lot of doors up in my district and down in the Phoenix area yesterday.
40:45
Uh, I tell people at the doors every day that it's essential that we turn out.
40:51
I'm not worried how they're going to vote.
43:08
Is it the fact that MAGA, 'cause as we know, Arizona is railhead for what I call ultra MAGA, uh, [laughs] are the folks not participating, or how has he been consistently behind in the polls? Are the polls just not operative out there and we should forget it, or is there something she's doing with independent voters that have them saying, "Hey, I want more Hobbs"?
40:45
Mm-hmm.
40:45
And this is a very tense, uh, situation.
40:49
Uh, the Brits understand that Russia is, is a threat, and a, a homeland security equivalent.
40:58
They've been sort of preparing the civilian population for emergency, you know, uh, stockpile supplies and so forth.
41:06
I don't know how much of that is just, uh, kind of a false flag, um, uh, indication to the civilian population or not, but the bottom line is that we have to have force protection.
41:21
And if the Brits can't protect, cannot protect RAF Fairford and our bomber fleet, then we need to go home.
41:30
And we can project, um, you know, global reach, global power is, is the mainstay stock and trade, uh, saying for strategic airlift, which is what I flew.

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58:01
Mm
31:32
Yeah.
31:32
Um, if they had had some kinda damage forward of the engines, then, um, something could've happened.
31:39
And in C-141 accidents over the years, there's a famous one where they actually lived through it, where they lost, um, two engines on one side and a third engine on the other side, and it was because one engine, uh, threw off pieces into the other engines.
31:59
Uh, but that's usually the case.
32:02
I, I guess I'm not completely surprised because if, you know, the engines were pulled back, um, symmetrically, then-

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37:36
Mm-hmm.
37:36
And this is a very tense, uh, situation.
37:40
Uh, the Brits understand that Russia is, is a threat, and the, uh, homeland security equivalent, they've been sort of preparing the civilian population for emergency, you know, uh, stockpile supplies and so forth.
4:59
Colonel, great to have you on.
5:02
different circumstance tonight.
5:05
The 737 MAX is a Boeing aircraft.
5:08
It's very strong, and it withstood these G-forces that it really wasn't designed to withstand.
5:15
If you've seen the pictures of the aircraft, the rudder, I came off, I've, you know, asked on the internet how many Gs the passengers in the aircraft likely withstood on that rapid descent.
5:32
We're talking probably at least two and a half Gs.
5:36
And this would have been about a 10,000 foot per minute rate of descent.
6:31
How do you even manage to get out of your seat to get to the cockpit and then I guess fight these guys off and right the plane when you are going this without a pilot at the helm? Is it running a danger that you would not be able to pull back on the yoke and get that plane back straight?
37:08
Colonel, it's great to have you back on.
37:11
Great to be with you, Grant.
37:12
I'm actually up in Flagstaff, my home, 7,000 feet elevation here in the great Ponderosa Pines.
37:20
It's raining.
37:21
Here's the deal.
37:22
This is winnable.
37:24
This state will vote for Biggs, will vote for Peterson.
40:36
What is going on with that?
36:57
Where are Arizonans' heads on everything from President Trump to what he announced last night, the $5,000 dividend? What do you think?
37:03
I think that's a brilliant brainstorm.
37:05
That's what happens when you have a president who never sleeps.
37:09
I was actually in the audience up behind him, and we were all pleasantly stunned.
37:17
No one knew it was coming? No, no.
37:20
And here is where I think we are in Arizona.
37:23
It's a tough race for Andy Biggs to become governor.

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43:45
No, because I think people realize she's blocked almost everything, right?
36:21
it was coming?
36:22
No. No.
36:23
And here is where I think we are in Arizona.
36:26
It's a tough race for Andy Biggs to become governor.
36:31
We absolutely have to turn out every Republican we can and every independent.
36:37
I believe he can win.
36:39
His message is very strong.

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42:49
No, because I think people realize she's blocked almost everything, right?
31:26
Tell me why you wanted to make sure you came on tonight.
31:30
Yeah, thank you.
31:31
It's very important, not so much for the fact that, well, of course, that individual should have been prosecuted, but what's more integral to the whole discussion is the fact that we are still so vulnerable.
31:46
And CISA has been gutted, and we need a strong, sure handshake with the Trump administration to shore up and harden our systems.
31:57
This is what is still worrying us.
32:00
This is why we absolutely have to get Republican Andy Biggs in as governor, Warren Peterson in as AG, Alex Colliden as Secretary of State.
32:12
These three men, and I say male alpha men, need to be able to be in office to get to the bottom of it and harden our systems.
33:52
How frustrated were you then? And then to hear this information, they were getting clues to this and still they were sitting on their hands.
19:05
I see the color gold as you're talking.
19:08
Well, it was also fraught.
19:12
I mean, the Vietnam War, high school, Vietnam War, all the boys, all they cared about was what was their number? Did they have to go and get killed? It was also fraught.
19:23
And- One can look back now and kind of understand some of the satisfactions of protesting and breaking.
19:33
And certainly being young at that age, there was this ridiculous, youthful confidence, not ridiculous, wonderful, youthful confidence in our power to change the world.
19:44
But it was also very much like now where real fear for what's going on and real conflict within ourselves and between various contacts and people that we move between.
19:58
You know, many a Thanksgiving dinner was fraught for many people as we hoped to sort of invent a different way of being in the world, not just long hair, you know.

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45:09
I was constantly
46:46
Mm-hmm.
46:47
And the...
46:48
So this dueting that we had done, and a lot of it we had made up with Laura Nyro's version of Motown just to compel us through all these different iterations.
46:59
We ended up performing, though, with a live jazz pianist, Peggy Stern, who created music just in relationship to what we actually had done with one another.
47:11
So a month beforehand, I was coming home late at night in January after seeing a concert and having some food with friends.
47:19
It was around midnight.
47:20
Was crossing the sidewalk on my walking home.

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54:31
[laughs] Okay.
38:01
So everything you've essentially, virtually everything you've passed, she's vetoed?
38:06
Yes.
38:07
Uh, I'm chairman of the judiciary and the elections, uh, committee combined.
38:11
It's the most contentious, uh, spiciest committee at the Arizona Senate.
38:16
They have to trespass people because they become so unruly because of these bills that we try to pass to correct, uh, the elections.
38:26
We have made some progress.
38:28
For example, in primaries now, all 15 counties have to allow observers.
41:57
Tell us about that.
43:20
So everything you've essentially, virtually everything you've passed, she's vetoed?
43:24
Yes, I'm chairman of the Judiciary and the Elections Committee combined.
43:30
It's the most contentious, spiciest committee at the Arizona Senate.
43:34
They have to trespass people because they become so unruly because of these bills that we try to pass to correct corruption.
43:43
the elections.
43:44
We have made some progress.
43:47
For example, in primaries now, all 15 counties have to allow observers.
45:35
But what's the frustration like when people say, hey, we've kind of wasted four years here?
17:47
Colonel, it's great to have you on the program.
17:49
I was really glad to get your text this morning and asked to be on the show.
17:53
I've been watching this very, very closely.
17:57
And I've got to tell the audience that when you get wings as an Air Force pilot, you know that your country is there for you.
18:06
You know they will come and get you.
18:11
The first bit of training that those of us who had ROTC backgrounds went to after pilot training was survival school.
18:20
And it's a very in-depth two weeks where you learn how to live off the land and then you learn what to do if you're captured.
19:56
What is going through his mind? How does he assess what the best course of action is?
35:14
Can you talk to me about that?
35:16
Yeah, absolutely.
35:17
Actually, I authored a bill, a companion bill with the House that Hobbs actually signed last week, which moves the primary up by two weeks.
35:29
So we'll have it on the 21st of July instead of in August.
35:33
and also stipulates that observers are able to be in the room during the primary because Pima County, where Tucson is, it was optional before.
35:46
Now we've stipulated that it must be the case, and it was because they were resisting.
35:51
So we try to incrementally improve the status of our elections.
37:07
They don't
18:52
Welcome, my friend.
18:56
Well, good to be with you.
18:57
I'm in Crestone, Colorado, and we're en route to see family in Denver.
19:03
I was absolutely aghast when I saw this.
19:08
I put it out on social media last night that this absolutely needs to be looked into.
19:14
We are borderline sedition here with what these lawmakers have done.
19:21
have done, they're nibbling around at the edges and they're inferring that our commander in chief is putting out illegal orders.
20:46
Do you think so, Senator?
40:14
Why does the Chinese government need to be purchasing property right next to American military bases? What's the purpose? What are they telling us that they need this for?
40:24
Well, the Chinese Communist Party would love nothing more than to prevail without a shot fired, and anybody who has, uh, studied their MO knows this.
40:37
And so, even when the, uh, bill legislation says 30% owned, really anything that someone from China does has to have the stamp of approval of the CCP.
40:51
So, that even in and of itself, 30%, is, is a, uh, optimistic sort of cutoff.
40:58
No matter what it is, they're going to have a hand, uh, in it.
41:04
And so we not only have Luke Air Force Base, we have the Yuma Proving Ground, we have the Goldwater Bombing Range, we have Fort Huachuca, which is the Army's intelligence training center in Southern Arizona.
41:20
We have, uh, a, a training area up in Northern Arizona in my district.
44:16
How d- I mean, what are members of the Department of Defense saying to you about this? And to me it's like, how can y- how are they allowing this to happen?

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