And so the theme that I keep seeing with you two is these people, horrible things like disappointing things things that you could just totally shut down over happen and your response to them even if it's not immediate but your response tends to be like my eyes are open i'm aware i want to see where this is taking me like god let let please take me i trust you and you do that together well and i know this was like such a bumpy ride but um tell me when you started to not feel like yourself

let me tee it up for you yeah okay so third birth uh starts at home sandy's very intuitive she's like something's off we need to go to the hospital okay um we do she like starts pushing there's a whole stuff there that we probably don't even need to get to in the hospital stuff but trauma in the hospital a bit to an extent and And kind of like something's off still.

Like I think we need to do a C-section.

So it ends up being a C-section.

Physical trauma there.

You're cut open.

Your baby comes out of you, as you guys both know.

also have to be open to it like i was begging for it and it came to me do you know what i mean and it was spiritual warfare too like that's

is like a structure and a, like a, And

so the only path I saw, if I'm like, if I want to be successful, I just have to do this.

So, you know, worked hard enough, got a scholarship, went to business school, ended up getting my master's degree in finance and was like, I better use this thing and, and, uh, go into finance.

Like, I can't waste that.

So I did got a, you know, worked my way up the corporate ladder.

I thought like when I make six figures, like that is the pinnacle, everything will be set.

Like, cause that was a huge pain point growing up.

He was