For the next few years, which would lead up to a recurrence of her cancer, how was Sophie doing? And were you confident at the time that the treatment that she was taking was going to lead her to a full recovery?

Yeah, you know, Sophie has had seven years of stability after she had endured almost seven straight years of chemotherapy and toxic clinical trials.

And during that time, she really was thriving.

She was doing fantastic.

We had tried two different forms of natural killer cell therapies on her.

Natural killer cells are the main drivers of your immune system.

They're like the generals in the marching army.

How long has she had her wheelchair and how has she adjusted to it?

What do you think that chapter taught you about courage and trying different therapies?

You know, I really am so incredibly grateful for the documentary, for Netflix, for having it on their streamer for five years.

It's now also on Prime, Apple TV, and Gaia, and to Ricky Lake and Abby Epstein, who produced this documentary, who gave us this platform to really speak out about a plan that has been so demonized for decades, decades, and decades now.

And what I have learned since then about plant medicine and its viability in it truly being a real potential to help with disease and disease reversal has been one of the most incredible gifts I've ever been given.

I've also been able to use my understanding of this plant and how it works to reboot the natural killer cells, which are the main drivers of your immune system.

They are the generals in the marching army.

that tell all the other immune cells what to do, where to go.

And it helps you lead you into things that we've already been talking about a little bit and alluding to is the immunotherapy because you wanted something more durable, right? So what was the moment when your mind shifted from adjunctive help to, we may need to repair the immune system itself?

tell me about growing up then in your area you've mentioned Newport there Tracey and it's a big small but mighty in terms of music

It is.

Yeah.

Like I suppose I was born in in Craig, Berthill, which would be halfway between Berthill and Newport.

And say I started playing music at the age of 10, which was considered kind of, you know, she's a bit of a late starter, you know.

And but like when I from knee high to grasshopper, my father, Tommy Bond, used to play the button accordion and the clappers, which are the cassonettes.

And he'd always, every Sunday morning, write, we're heading up now to McGrath's bar.

Oh, definitely, it's