[laughs]

It, it, it is a post-pandemic thing that, uh, the pandemic just kinda made us look at our work, look at what we were doing, what we wanted to do.

Had our hopes and goals changed? You know, and it's kind of recognizing that, you know, as you go through life, you, you start to need- ...

new goals, new things to attain for.

And it's like, do you, it's so easy to get stuck in, in, you know, one journey.

And I, I think we were both at a point of, you know, we still actually have m- m- goals and dreams and things.

And I think we were at an age as well where we were like, if we don't do it now, we never will.

Mm.