Are, are you able to show any of that development, just to illustrate what you're saying?

Yeah, let me, let me find... [upbeat music] So we'll, we'll record.

We'll have that through the desk, and so that's a EMU SP-1200 I think it was, just doing, just doing drums.

And I'll be on the, on the machine, and he'll be EQ'ing it and compressing it.

And then we'll get on the, on the desk.

And then we record it all, and then I would've resampled it and pretend I found it on an old record and be like, "Yeah, this is cool, isn't it?"

Yeah.

And so often with a big modular synth you get too many patch cords, and it's a pain and it...