But those were probably the two that... that stand out that really got me, fostered my interest that I already had in the outdoors.

I would say my dad was definitely my big driving factor, whether it be hunting, fishing, walking through the woods looking up at trees he's like that's good looking tree you should cut that down put that on a sawmill or walking around looking for mushrooms with the 18 different mushroom books that we have it was definitely him and then the 10 o'clock at night you stopping by on the snowmobile just getting out getting off work stopping in for like half an hour to hang out because we're fishing yep yeah definitely a lot of good stories there

But, um, you know, and you deal with some bad people sometimes too, you know, so.

I'll say, like, the most, like, one of the game warden stories that sticks out in my head is, like, it was me and my stepmom.

I think I was 12 at the time.

We were down in Portsmouth, because that's where she'd grown up, and we were on the coast fishing.

We were catching a thing.

No bites, no nothing.