that the men have got a hold of them women and they can't let go of that part and that's the biggest thing is once you let that go then the world is yours to do whatever you want to

do you know i have a great story it's a such a sad story but it was one of the leaders wives and kids who came out I'm not going to say which group but and they're all about the big dreams right and and they knew that she was thinking of leaving and they told her that when you leave you and the children are get a car accident and you will be killed because of your disobedience and so I kept trying to explain to her that's not how it works I met her in a parking lot when she first drove up knowing that her car was bugged And we had law enforcement come.

Sure enough, we found trackers.

We were escorted back to a safe place for her.

And I remember getting her through the night with the children.

I don't think she slept.

And the next day we were driving down to meet an attorney and she starts screaming, stop, stop, stop.

I just love that holding out help helps in so many different ways.