Mm-hmm.

It's not going to be happening in the feed bunks, so you can't give a certain ration per day and check the bunk at the end of the day to see it's all gone.

You really need that paddock utilization or pasture utilization data to be able to build that full picture and to be able to understand, you know, do I need to sow a crop of improved pastures into a certain corner, or are there actually weeds? Or, um, something else that's happened here in Australia is, uh, people found that there was actually predators in a corner.

So they assumed that there weren't predators around, but we have a pretty big wild dog, uh, population in Australia, and so wild dogs are major predators to young calves.

And so, uh, there was one producer in particular who was telling us a story about, uh, they went to check why a cow, uh, why the herd wasn't utilizing the full pasture, and they actually found a den of young wild dog pups.

And so that was a pretty, um, that was a pretty big win for that producer to be able to, you know, um, figure out why things were happening the way they were happening and, and implement measures to be able to solve that.

So whether that was exclusion fencing is something that we do a lot of here in Australia.

Mm-hmm