you know more of scott you know more of josh's time at that period um yeah i can piggyback off the end of that on clearly what i've seen and how those dots connect but like you know that josh from that period much more than i do yeah and i mean

it's it's kind of it's um I guess a small community of people that intersect in different ways.

So the then owner of Zip, a guy named Andy Ording, had sold the company to SRAM.

And He worked with SRAM for a little while and then has now pretty much just gone into investment and advisory positions.

So he is on our board of directors still, and I think a pretty close friend of Josh Portner's.

So there is definitely a connection there.

Of course, you know, we continue to buy chains from SRAM that we sell pre-waxed with Super Secret.

What are some things that you've witnessed as a person in the industry that COVID impacted the cycling industry so much?