Yeah.

And so, you know, my stage of life, I've got three teenagers and a middle schooler.

You know, we've got life kind of happening here in Canada, and the, the things that we are facing are maybe very different than what a lot of Americans are feeling right now, existential threats to sovereignty, things like that.

And so you end up having, um, I think very similar to Nadia, like, it just, life has become very practical and embodied, and that is how I find more hope in it.

So, like, I'm still an unrelenting church lady, right? And I'm the one who's, you know, picking everybody up from rehearsals for "Matilda Junior," you know, [laughs] that's gonna be happening, and signing up for the meal trains and doing the food bank and making meals for moms whose kids are in NICU.

And it's like, God, I, I feel like my 40s, um, I'm, like, a minute away from turning 47, but I feel like my 40s have been like, "Oh, you don't get to change the world."

Yes.

I'll be sure to link Braving the Truth in today's show notes if you want to pick up a copy, along with links to both Nadia and Sarah's Substacks, where they just offer such like thoughtful reflections and gathering these beautiful communities of faith.

I love it.

No, I think that you're right.

I mean, a lot of those-- I think that that's where I've pivoted in the last number of years, is very far from wanting to be in front of anyone or, you know, believing my own hype or, or anything, anything along those lines.

There's been a real sense of, like, the best way that I know how to combat despair right now is by loving things and people in very intense and particular sort of ways.

[chuckles] And so, you know, my stage of life, I've got three teenagers and a middle schooler.

You know, we've got life kind of happening here in Canada, and the, the things that we are facing are maybe very different than what a lot of Americans are feeling right now, existential threats to sovereignty, things like that.

And so you end up having, um, I think very similar to Nadia, like, it just, life has become very practical and embodied, and that is how I find more hope in it.

Yeah