So we were just turning profitable, we were just doing this, and then we got an acquisition offer, and we sold it.

It was a hard time, like in our lives.

At-- Like that was a hard-- The first time we felt like real hardship.

Year and a half, maybe two years of zero income and me working eighty-hour weeks.

Uh, every day I was on, 'cause it was just us maintaining a site that had, you know, tens of thousands of users with real money playing on our site and us taking every dollar we made, and we were making money, and reinvesting it into the business, reinvesting in the servers, reinvesting.

My biggest learning, uh, the biggest takeaway was like I worked very hard with Brian on it.

Brian doesn't really give up, and I don't-- And my, my, my whole life my father pushed me, like never give up on things.

And again, I think the only true thing of value within the space.