So in practical terms, what would be happening in years six, seven and eight?

So the program combines a number of elements.

The first is sort of one-on-one mentoring, showing young people that there is a light at the end of the tunnel, that when they're experiencing some tough times with friendships, You know, that's giving them some strategies to deal with that.

So it's one-on-one mentoring.

It's movement and creative.

So it's getting out, getting physically active, you know, showing your creative side.

It's workshops around emotional resilience.

One was age 13, the other was age 12.

made any progress over the last few years?

Look, I think we have made progress, but I readily accept that, you know, the housing crisis and cost of living is still a huge issue.

Those rents, those mortgages, they are just going up, up, up, and it's putting a lot of pressure on people.

This is the progress that I'd say.

We are building more social and affordable housing than ever before.

We are delivering record numbers.

But the problem is such that at the moment, that's not enough.

Are we making any ground there?

We, we are delivering record numbers.

numbers.But the problem is such that at the moment, that's not enough.

We, we have to keep going.

The other progress that we've made is when, when I first became the minister, in that one year, there'd been a 38% increase in homelessness.

In one year, that's a huge jump.

Now it's still going up, but last year it was only 5%.

Now, we don't want those numbers going up at all, but I guess I'd make the case the, the curve is bending.

Are we making any ground there?