we know

we're gonna, we couldn't know.

So to this day, I'm not really sure how we kind of knocked that one in that sense.

But so the Redeemer Underground Edition is our album we release.

And a while later, you know, I mean, after we released it, I guess that's what they heard, you know, Spine Farm, Universal Music, Spine Farm contact us and they say, are you guys independent on principle or have you considered having a record deal? And we're like looking at our shelf and like, I have a lot of albums from this record label.

Yeah, we're interested.

But there was some certain reasons too, because we had felt a level of success with our independence.

like,