Like, what does that feel or look like?

So definitely not hairy.

It is more scaly.

So the beaver tail is really a fascinating part of their body in a lot of ways.

For one, it's, uh, used a little bit as a rudder as they're swimming through the water, and so it can help them steer a little bit.

It's also important when they're propping up to chew down a tree or whatnot.

And one of the most important functions of it, though, it's a very important alarm system as well.

Kind of what's, what's happening in their lodges?

Right.

Don, I can't, uh, thank you enough for having us on the show and, uh, being able to, uh, to, uh, share our story.

Uh, because the, uh, injustice that happened to us, uh, we find, we found, uh, that, uh, far too, uh, many times, it's not just, uh, a rare, uh, thing that happened or an unusual thing that happened, but it happens more frequently than not.

Uh, for those, uh, that are listening for the first time, uh, as a couple, Fox and I are known, uh, as a, uh, as Fox & Rob, and we're a formerly incarcerated couple who spent more than 21 years behind bars, uh, before receiving clemency in 2018.

Uh, probably one of the biggest takeaways that we had from that experience is knowing that to be free is to, uh, is to free others.

Uh, that being said, um, 1997, uh, our family, uh, Fox and I were high school sweethearts, uh, we met in 1997- uh, '87 and, uh, decided to exchange our nuptials 10 years later after an on-again, off-again relationship.

Uh, began to, uh, pursue what we thought was the American dream, and that was opening up our city, Shreveport, uh, its first, uh, hip-hop clothing store.

Talk to me, talk to us about that journey.