was

a separation of church and state.

Having a pure... game that was for fans that was pure uh that was something that did not involve gambling and what we saw over time was not only the launch of fantasy sports which you know showed there was an interest showed there was a marketplace i think there was also the wider except like the the wider um We were just more interested in gambling over time in society.

We took it on.

We embraced it.

And the other part, too, is that just the leagues wanted to make more money and were shown that there were opportunities to do that by partnering and allowing promotional relationships and to support the legislation that moved sports betting forward.

And a big part of

that is just because we don't have a good grasp on the data of all of the different harms.