
Rachel Cleetus
Senior Policy Director of the Climate and Energy program at the Union of Concerned Scientists, economist and expert on clean energy and climate resilience policy.
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Jul 9, 2026
Twin threats: Climate change and nukes
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John BurroughsGUEST
We advocated certain things, and some of them ended up in the treaty, and, um, probably we played a role in that, in that happening.

Rachel CleetusGUEST
The Union of Concerned Scientists, uh, the organization to which I belong, has been participating as an observer party, uh, to the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change negotiations since the very beginning.

Rachel CleetusGUEST
That framework convention includes, uh, pretty much every country, uh, until January of this year when the Trump administration took the United States out of the Framework Convention on Climate Change, the first time that's ever happened.

Rachel CleetusGUEST
Uh, they have exited the Paris Agreement before, but this was the first time they exited the bedrock convention.

Rachel CleetusGUEST
And that convention, when it came together, uh, it, it, it's really actually, uh, quite wonderful to read, uh, the original language because you see how science and equity was baked in from the very beginning.

Rachel CleetusGUEST
There was an understanding, uh, of, of climate science and how heat-trapping em- emissions from human activities like burning fossil fuels was leading to a dangerously altered climate, and that that would have huge human consequences.
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