Oh, the cat

number nine, yes.

Of course.

I'm up early.

I always go for a walk with my mate and we just chat about the world.

I often will have read the papers by 5 a.m. Usually at work 10, 10.30. There's always something on for me at work, whether it's for publicity or marketing or 60 Minutes.

I've just been on the road for 60 Minutes.

Did you always know that this was what you were going to do with your life?

How do you set your face and your demeanour?

Great question.

I always say, particularly to the younger news readers, don't deliver a melancholy delivery on a sad story.

It's up to the viewer to have their emotional reaction to the story.

You nuance your read, but you don't go all sad if it's a sad story.

I did a story on 60 Minutes on the weekend on sarcoma, synovial sarcoma, and a beautiful lady called Kayla, who has served as a soldier in the Australian Army in the Middle East and And I remember that was a hard interview and I just had a conversation with her and I just put myself on the couch at home thinking we were just sitting there having a chat about her sarcoma rather than going into reporter mode.

And what was amazing was I thought about it and then watched it back that it did get a lot out of her.

How do you push beyond someone's need to like you? It's a human response, isn't it?

How do you set your face and your demeanour?

Great question.

I always say, particularly to the younger news readers, don't deliver a melancholy delivery on a sad story.

It's up to the viewer to have their emotional reaction to the story.

You nuance your read, but you don't go all sad if it's a sad story.

I did a story on 60 Minutes on the weekend on sarcoma, synovial sarcoma, and a beautiful lady called Kayla, who has served as a soldier in the Australian Army in the Middle East, and I remember that was a hard interview and I just had a conversation with her and I just put myself on the couch at home thinking we were just sitting there having a chat about her sarcoma rather than going into reporter mode.

And it was amazing as I thought about it and then watched it back that it did get a lot out of her.

How do you push beyond someone's need to like you? It's a human response, isn't it?

So you're serious

...

I'm, um, I'm serious.

And then I, my, I'm number four.

I've-

Yeah

... uh, they had to get married, but they weren't allowed out, and I had to sit with them, even to watch TV with them-

Why don't we do that, Pete?

Actually, I don't have, I don't have my people.

I am my people.

I can't wait to say hello.

I'm the idiot who wears the terrible, terrible mismatched leisure wear.

I know, Pete.

Um, which my two daughters and wife go, "Oh my God, are you walking out in public in that?" And I go, "Yeah.

Doesn't it look good?" And they go, "Ah, not really, no."

Peter, what an extraordinary human being he was.

He was extraordinary in the work he did.

Absolutely, that's non-negotiable.

And what else is non-negotiable is he was an extraordinary person in terms of a family man, the way he interacted with people.

He made you feel that you were the only person in the room, which is a real skill.

And I remember we used to send him videos.

His daughters love Jessica.

stick in their mind forever, emphasis.