Do you know

what? I think mum said to me, because mum was always across it, and she said, you know what? I gave you such beautiful skin and then your father's genes went and put hair all over it.

I went, okay, what are we going to do? She said, well, I found this laser clinic, Michael.

I found this laser clinic we could go and try.

Four hours later, it took four hours, they got a black carbon paste and with a big paddle pop stick they scraped the paste all over my back.

They then took the laser and they would explode the hair follicle because the light is attracted to the darkness of the carbon and it would bleed.

Did it even work? To a point.

take?

[laughs] Did you say, "I'll backhand you"?

And then he goes, "Next question." Uh, well, like, like nervously.

And then I said, "Well, do you know, out of our team, Bruce, I thought you and I would've got on really well." So I thought, as a dream of mine, I'd love to have a beer with Bruce.

So I pulled two cans of beer out of my bag that was next to me in the hotel room.

I open the beers, I go to give Bruce a beer, and he just shakes his head.

[laughs] Did you even play it on the radio?

Two and a half.

I then walk out, and there's whispers all through the corridor, as if to say, "Why did he bring the beers out?" And I'm looking at Tommy going, "What's wrong here?" He goes, "I'll explain in a minute.

We

let her get a word in and then we walked out of there and Dad went, world leaders and my son, this doesn't make any sense.

What are we doing here? I went, I don't know, John.

Sorry, I've still got no idea.

And call me Jean-Paul.

So, no, it was wild.

Like...

Isn't it? Yes.

What, like, like breakfast sort of time slot?

Well, I, well, I've done ra- I've done, I've done radio for probably [laughs] for 20 years now.

What I calculated the other day as well is to become an expert in something, you need to do 10,000 hours.

Now, you guys are new to this, and you're probably at the 1,000 mark.

But, um, let's just say you've dialed 1-800-Expert.

Yeah.

Well, the, the hardest part about this, and the most dangerous game to play, but every effort should be rewarded.

Um, you have to not only work out what the child might need, you've gotta work out before your wife thinks what she's gonna need, you gotta think what she'll require.

What's that experience been like and what has been the reception outside Australia?

The reception's been great.

In fact, very early on, when the Prime Minister committed to making a change in the law, 12 months down the track, we had a lot of great interest from the UK.

We had a team from Japan fly out to have a conversation about this.

It was only last week, a team from the Philippines We're engaging in a conversation with 36 months about how do we do this? What's the blueprint? What does it look like? So by the time we got to the UN as well, Sean, we had, you know, the European Commissioner there.

We had the Prime Minister of Greece, Prime Minister of Fiji, wanting to know, is this possible? So the resounding thought was, based on the UN and the General Assembly, was great work, great effort.

We're watching closely.

Do you expect much of that? Do you expect it will get anywhere? Yeah.