Some people took as these companies won, sorry, these cities won, and certainly the cities got some money to upgrade their filtration systems, but Syngenta had to pay $100 million.

That's like 10%.

of what it makes each year just on atrazine so you know they won the suits uh they didn't have to do anything to prevent uh any atrazine release into drinking water lakes all they had to do was give money to these cities to filter out the polluted water that they're using for drinking water If you wanted to fix the problem, you'd stop it at the source.

But this is throwing money at a problem to clean up after the fact, which is just absurd.

So how is After the Incoming Potential? Syngenta is very good at infiltrating public discourse.

I will say these court documents probably wouldn't have made the light of day, except they were foiled for by a group called 100 Reporters and then reported on by some of these larger news outlets.

And atrazine has been the beneficiary of that as well as many other pesticides.

So what is going on with atrazine right now? As I mentioned, it was kind of in a state of flux right now.

While most jobs are overseen by OSHA, the worker protection standard is enforced and overseen by EPA, which happens to be the same regulatory authority that is in charge of approving pesticides in the first place.

So it's really not a great system by any means.

I certainly wouldn't say OSHA is highly venerable and some sort of gold standard, but let me tell you, it's a whole heck of a lot better than EPA basically overseeing an approval that it itself made.

So what we see is the worker protection standard, which are things like an employer needs to provide the proper protection equipment and stuff like that.

Or a worker needs to make sure that workers aren't in the fields when a helicopter comes over and dumps pesticides on the field.

So it's very basic things that could save lives.

Nathan.

Well, I think people should care about this because our regulatory oversight is not meeting our expectations.

Most people believe that we have a regulatory system in place that makes sure that everything on store shelves is safe, and that's not the case.

And so unfortunately, what that does is it puts it puts the pressure on individual consumers who have absolutely no clue what is going on.

I mean, I study this as my occupation and I still a lot of times have no clue what's going on.

I mean, it is just it's a free for all, really.

And and that is unfair, really.

yes

Thanks for having me, and thanks everyone for joining for my talk today.

I'd say I got a little sore throat today, one of the perks of having small kids at home.

So my voice might go in and out, but I got some water by my side, and I will try to talk for two hours and not pass out.

So, yeah, atrazine.

Atrazine is one of the most widespread pesticide water contaminants in the US.

In fact, it is the most.