He was terrible.

He, he was not prepared for this kind of a case at all.

At all.

He never even put Marsha on the stand.

He did not want her on the stand, which Marsha wanted to go on the stand, but he would not allow it.

No, that's ridiculous.

So you know what a body could look like after they have taken his organs that were donated.

Because prior to that, there was a small bruise on the side of his neck.

Marsha was, just from what everyone is telling me, a loving, caring person, which is why when they heard that she'd been arrested for the death of a little two-year-old boy, they simply couldn't believe what they were hearing.

She always watched her grandchildren, Julia and Ava.

Jesse it is now.

But anyway, she always watched the grandchildren, and Marsha raised her family on Second Street and lived right beside the Schelps.

Leslie and Kristen were best friends.

They were even in each other's wedding.

Now, Kristen is the mother of Noah that passed away, okay? So they were all very close.

Something that the ladies say is odd about the scene itself is an item that was not at the home later on, and an item that apparently no one seems to know the location of

You wanna talk about that, how you, how you came to NA?

Yeah.

Actually, [clears throat] um, that was my very first Narcotics Anonymous meeting, was at the DePaul.

I went to DePaul's, it was New Beginnings.

It was an experimental drug treatment facility because DePaul's is a, is a, uh, psychiatric hospital.

And, um, [lip smacks] my last OD landed me in four-point restraints covered [chuckles] in piss and vomit, and they put me in, uh, Touro Hospital in the psych unit.

And, um, thank God, back then recovery wasn't big business, right? Especially in New Orleans and Louisiana.

... of it were.

Miss Nancy, thank you for letting us come today.

Well, yes.

And, and thank Craigside, I, I thank you all dearly for everyone that had something to do with letting the horses come here.

These guys are my passion.

Uh, a- and they've always been ...

I've always felt that animals did more for people than most other things in, in life because they're, they're so different.

But to come here to Craigside, where they've never been before, and most people have never seen before, uh, it's kind of could probably enlighten a few people to really love on animals, uh, a lot more.

... and what is it about for you to being connected with animals, especially horses, that really brings this sense of wellness and joy to you every day?

Can you tell us about how you met?

When I met him, he was going to church.

He served on the worship team, and he could talk like a preacher, so I thought he was a good guy.

[chuckles] It was confusing because we were play wrestling, and I wouldn't have remembered this except I had written it in a journal, and I read it after everything fell apart.

He held me down and said some things like, "Did you think you were stronger than me? Did you think I would let you go?" It really scared me.

I was very close to breaking up with him, but he actually cried and apologized, so I thought, "He's sorry.

It's not gonna happen again," and that sort of thing never happened again.

Right.

Uh, Nancy?

It is, it is not necessarily the news.

And I wanna say this word very, very carefully.

In fact, I almost wanna spell it.

It's sniglets.

S-N-I-G-L-E-T-S.

Nancy, you irked me.

Sit, Ubu, sit.

3:51 PM.

Okay.

All righty.

Okay.

I always like to look at the North Node the most.

It is sitting in your 12th house.

Uh, and I, I really like to remedy the North Node in 12th house because if you live in, in the place of birth, it doesn't give you the fullest potential.

Wow.

What do you think now, Nancy?

Hmm, I'm beginning to like this doll, too.

She and mine could become besties.

Cool.

And we'll let her wear my doll's clothes.

Um, I, I can't.

It doesn't fit.

[laughs]

And for you guys as a family, what does life look like now that Ben has this tech to help him communicate with you and improve his quality of life, versus before when he didn't have it?

Ben decided to move in with us in 2022, and it's been a night and day difference.

It was 20 questions all the time with Ben.

We were always asking him if he's comfortable, if he needed anything, and now he is telling us what he needs.

He is independently changing the TV shows on his computer.

He's text messaging us.

He's playing video games.

How did you decide that, you know, this was the right thing for you and you wanted to have Ben be in your house with you and spend your life with him?

So thanks.

These are really good, really vulnerable, make me wanna like break down and cry for all of you because I'm sucking in your shit, and I'm sorry, and I know I'm not supposed to do that.

Boomer, my dog, is now barking at my neighbor somebody.

[laughs] Um, so anyway, I think as a person who's been doing this shit for a long time, um, I feel like there's some sort of subtle change that happens inside of you.

Like you noti- like you notice that all these things happen to you, and then you realize that for me, I portrayed that it wasn't happening at my home.

So maybe I, maybe I just became the people pleaser or the person that I thought other people wanted me to be and manipulated myself and my whole being to be what I thought somebody else needed.

And then what happens? We lose ourselves.

I wanna say-

Yeah

...

if I needed it.

And I have access to sixty-two thousand five hundred.

So what I'm trying to decide to do-- I mean, now the interest rates aren't that great as it was when I got the HELOC back then.

The rate on that would be seven point eight seven five percent if I were to use the home equity line.

But if I were to refinance to get about thirty-eight thousand dollars in my pocket, I'm looking at a four point seven five percent rate at best.

Ugh

What were some of the first steps you took to organize your money? Where did you start?

Um, I would, I would say the first steps I took was trying to get a clear understanding on where my money was actually going.

I started by using simple budgeting and saving worksheets, which helped me to track my income and expenses, and it was a eye-open- it was eye-opening for me because I could finally see my spending habits.

From there, I created a basic budget and just started it, started small, realist- and setting realistic saving goals for myself.

And I also made it a, a habit to review my finances regularly, help me stay consistent and accountable.

And the- these simple tools and steps really helped me feel more organized and in control of my money.

What pushed you to take that step?

So my journey into e- entrepreneurship was really influenced by my sister, who's an entrepreneur.

So tell us how you guys have worked together to achieve that.

Well, I think one of the biggest things for financial success for anyone is being on the same page as your spouse.

And I think if you can work as a team, you are far more likely to be successful than if one person really wants to save and one person wants to be more, you know, liberal with their spending.

So my husband and I come from very similar backgrounds.

Our families are very similar.

We did not have, like, extravagant upbringings, and my parents have retired early with a very comfortable nest egg after having, you know, basic American jobs.

Like, they were the, the quiet millionaires, you know? So I think having that same understanding worked well, and then we did buy a fixer-upper at the beginning of residency for the whopping cost of $72,000.

Somewhere out there, there's somebody like you sitting there, maybe in residency, going, "I gotta figure this money stuff out, and does this PS- PSLF thing really work, and how can I be like this person that three or four years out now has a net worth of more than half a million dollars, uh, uh, uh, has student loans are gone, is doing what she wants with her life?" Uh, what advice do you have for that person?

Sheriff Labrador and Officer Doberman will arrest all of you again.

That's right, you all are going to be arrested.

In one united front, they faced the gang of criminals head-on.

We will protect Rainbow Island.

But for people in the movement, the revelation of the files only strengthened the belief in their cause because it was a tangible symbol of a broken political system.

That didn't stop us 'cause the moment we found out, the moment we got those carpetas and we knew, uh, what was going on, that only made us stronger 'cause what are you gonna do now? It's out in public.

You can't come arrest me now just because I believe in the independence for my country.

You know, "Hey, you, I'm involved.

Well, let's get involved."

That's the way my grandma sees it, and it's a fight she's gonna continue until her last days.

I will die for my country.

I will believe in its independence because I believe in its people.

Two days later, she was buried.And that might've been the end of this story, if not for a group of tenacious women.

We wanted to clear Kerry's name.

Matt was going around talking about what a depressed, suicidal person she was.

We knew she wasn't.

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Oh yeah, with all my heart.

Kerry loved her life, she loved her family.

She would never have left those girls.