You guys sound like you're doing well.

Not to one-up you, but I'm doing amazing.

I just went on vacation by myself, which was super fun.

Probably because when I checked in the resort, I said, this was supposed to be my honeymoon.

They were so nice to me.

I got fired from my last job.

We all make mistakes.

Like, my friend, she got shine tattooed on her wrist.

So from the off, did you know that a home birth was the right thing for you?

Well, I, um, I'm a bit of a glutton for punishment.

I run ultramarathons, um, which is anything above a marathon.

And the reason I did that is because I wanna see what my body's capable of.

So I've had two natural home births.

I had a midwife and a doula.

I actually had two midwives there, and they clean up everything.

How does it work? So there's, there's a midwife and a doula.

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Yeah.

Um, so like, you know, mornings I would say are like our, our kind of always our quiet, like, this is my time with the kids.

And like we get up, we have breakfast.

We, um, you know, I try to get them outside for a little bit.

Um, and then, you know, I try to...

Mealtimes I try to keep as normal as possible.

Um, but it's really hard to be strict about-

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What trends are you seeing in that part of the publishing industry?

Well, it used to be that there were a lot of contests for a first full-length book of poems.

And I say full-length because there are also chapbooks.

Chapbooks are sort of a mini book.

It's usually a limited press runIt's only a few hundred copies and it's short.

It's like twenty to twenty-four pages and it serves as a stepping stone between just getting some work into journals and then getting a chapbook, a little, a mini book published before your book comes out.

The term comes from the same derivation as cheap.

Very nice.

Like it?

Love it.

It's so great.

It's, I mean, the weather's lovely.

The food's great.

The, I can do comedy there.

That's lovely.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Um, and, uh, yeah, this is my first time going to other places.

And I, when I put it on tour, I...

People were also like, "Aren't you gonna come farther north?" 'Cause I'm not traveling that far.

But the reason is, is because I'm basing myself in London, and I, I have a toddler and a five-month-old, and I'm only traveling to places I can go up and back-

Mm-hmm.

Um, but then, but then on the way here, I was thinking about, I, I was thinking about something, and my mind got to diabetes.

And then I remembered this girl I went to school with, elementary school with, and that she had diabetes.

[laughs]

And, um, and he said something about, like, um, "The so-called comedian Michelle Wolf," or I don't remember exactly.

But he was saying something bad about me, which is a compliment.

And, um, I responded with...

He said something about so-called comedian.

I can't remember exactly, but I responded with, um...

It was right after Jamal Khashoggi had been murdered, um, by the Saudis, and, uh, he had defended the Saudis in the murder.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Um, so, like, you know, mornings, I would say, are, like, our, our kind of always our quiet, like, this is my time with the kids.

And, like, we get up, we have breakfast, we, um, you know, I try to get them outside for a little bit.

Um, and thenYou know, I try to, mealtimes I try to keep as normal as possible.

Um, but it's really hard to be strict about-

Yeah, yeah.

No, exactly.

Like, but I, I love it, and there's a lot of cool things about breastfeeding where the major benefits you get is when the baby actually...

[laughs]

He wants purity? And I would buy the whole purity thing if everyone around them was doing it for the love of the game.

Why is it just the athletes? Everyone else getting paid, coaches, athletic directors, TV channels, arenas.

The NCAA is pure the same way carrot cake is healthy.

It's not.

Many of the athletes already, they get to go to school for free.

Right, yeah.

They're getting a free education they barely have time for.

So

they have several different types of delivery.

They have a scheduled delivery, which is always a few days out.

And I don't know who plans that far ahead.

I certainly don't.

Then they have immediate delivery, which is like set for like a block of time in that day you're currently in.

And that's the one I always use.

next, Michelle Wolf?

So

they have several different types of delivery.

They have a scheduled delivery, which is always a few days out.

And I don't know who plans that far ahead.

I certainly don't.

Then they have immediate delivery, which is like set for like a block of time in that day you're currently in.

And that's the one I always use.

next, Michelle Wolf?

(laughs)

I don't know if there's a single Bubba who we could be like, "Straight shooter." We'd be like, "You can trust this guy's gonna cheat." But my biggest problem with this whole story is that UNC is, like, known for being in the tournament, right? Not even just being in the tournament, like winning it often, or at least being in the final four. So to give their athletic director a $104,000 bonus for making the tournament really just seems like you should be in it. Like you're a basketball school. How are you getting such a huge bonus? And why is it going to the athletic director? What did you have to do with the team being-

I don't know this about you, to the point where I think you might be joking.

No, I swear. I grew up, so I went, I grew up in Hershey, Pennsylvania, and there's a farm team, there's, um, an AHL team in Pennsylvania, and, um, uh, called the Hershey Bears. And we lived in this like, we lived in this, like, small development when I was really young, and it, it had, like, I guess, like, some of the Bears players, when they first moved, they'd get, like, some of the, like, townhouses nearby. And so we, in my neighborhood, like, almost the whole Hershey Bears team lived, and my mom was really good friends with one of the player's wives. And like, we got, like, so I, I grew up going to hockey games, and my brothers-