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I try to be helpful.

But they're like, "You're not gonna sleep, you're not gonna...

It's gonna be crazy.

You're gonna get so many gray hairs." And I was like, "I'd rather not."Again, I had a, of course, female friend who, again, a year before me sort of made her first feature, and I was asking her about this, and she goes, "I did a lot of, like, movement work.

I literally worked with a coach to address, like, posture issues, to come up with stretches I could do." She was like, "It's the best decision I ever made."

Yeah.

You know, just sort of the rhythm of it all.

Sure.

But again, just the, that was my only avenue into understanding the, the BTS of u- of, of Hollywood, you know? And seeing a woman up there receiving a, a, you know, recognition is more what it's about.

You know, just being like, "Hi," like, "You can now see me.

I am visible," you know? I wrote this incredible story that was, like, so directly inspiring to me and, um, [lip smack] we were looking for producers for the movie before we even wrote the script.

Lily Houghton and I took out a pitch and, you know, what you're talking about, we sort of experienced, which was just, like, people wanted to hear the pitch because they were like, "Oh, it's like Mean Girls but a slasher," you know? Um, but then when we were, like, getting into the deeper themes of femininity and female relationships, um, something we were sort of asked about, particularly by male producers, were like, "I thought we were supposed to be making movies about, like, women loving other women." And this kinda goes chaotic at the end, you know? And we were like, "What?" We're like, "Who said they didn't love each other?" Like, the whole point of this is that they are trying to uplift each other, but they are doing that within, you know, an innately capitalist, competitive environment, you know? Like, and Lily Houghton and I were like, "Look, we wish it, it ended differently, but we feel like we would be putting a bow on something that is still an issue." Like, women are still trying to support each other and uplift each other.

And th- those experiences were like, okay, so some of the people writing the check up at the top to green light your movie are still men, and some of those men just didn't quite understand what we were going for.

And it can be so easy in those moments to be like, "Well, let's change it so that more people want the project, so that it, it's more accessible to more people." And actually in those moments, Lily and I were like, "I think we actually need to find someone who will protect what we have," and we found that in Diablo and Mason Novick, who's-

Yeah.