thinking about this change in what we've done going forward, or should there be change?

Well, I like what Wayne started.

Let's all put our biases out in front of us right away before we say our comments.

And so, yeah, I spent my career making sure the patient voice is at the center.

But I've also spent a lot of time partnering with Tamara and others on a lot of the NCDs.

And Davino's last comments, which were very passionate.

I'm so excited for you to be the incoming president of the STS.

ACC, STS, very important to be able to say and in the absence of the stick of the NCD to have, you know, this is what we need to have the TAVR look like and this is where it's appropriate to use it and where the data's not there yet.