Right.

The only access, the post office van fell over on our laneway because the rain washed the road completely away.

So there was about six, seven inches of muck, just muck, up the Sugarloaf, the little Sugarloaf.

And one of the delivery vans, two delivery vans, and one of the grocery delivery vans got stuck in the muck and had to be pulled out by tractors.

the postman's van actually turned over in the muck.

And this is just, you know, just telling you how bad it was.

And I had to be, we had no four-wheel drive like, you know what I mean? So I had to be taken out of the tractor as well, into the road to go to the airport one day.

Yeah, yeah.

And you knew him a very long time.

Well, people in Donegal are heartbroken to have heard about this tragedy.

Um, I'd have known the McHughs, uh, for many years, in football, in politics, and just locally.

And, uh, as you heard there, James came from a Gortahork area, small rural club, that produced fantastic footballers.

But James will be remembered, first of all, uh, as a family man, as a Kilcar man, and then as a Donegal hero.

And certainly, um, it was a terrible shock, and the lads of '92, I would've been speaking to Brian McEniff, uh, later, late last night.

Terribly, terribly upset, uh, for the family.

You knew him from around the age of 11.

I have known him,

sort of.

I wouldn't say I'm a long-time friend of his, close friend of his, because that would be unfair, but I have known him from the beginning, since he was around in the beginning.

The first time I became aware of him was... sure i was doing there used to be a assignment very haphazard simon busk from the mid 80s like 1987 or so at the top of grafton street on christmas eve and you'd get a phone call say will you come in and do the song but he was the one that really brought it together um my daughter was a frames absolute and all her friends were fanatics when they were growing up 15 16 like i'm i'm 70 you know a good good few years older than glenn but i met him everywhere he was always at festivals he was always talking and i know he was really really kind and he was really committed to helping as people have been saying all day long other other people and he'd bring you along to different things if he was going but um the um the thing on grafton street was the And in fact, last year was the last time I was in contact with him to ask me would I come in and do it.

And I had just committed to doing another thing on Christmas Eve.

And so I'll do it this year for him.

really wanted to be a musician and

I remember the first time he went to Australia, my daughter was there with 50 of her friends down at the basement in Sydney to see the frames.

years.

And I suppose he got a lot of support from the locality, from our local people that wanted him to go.

And he went into the county council and went into the Dáil and he was only starting to enjoy what he was doing when unfortunately he got sick.

So he found that a huge change.

And I suppose he didn't believe in his own capacity, where in fact he was more than able to do the job.

And he, you know, was very driven that he was there to support the people that elected him.

And that was great.

And we

... education as well.

Yes, yes.

And all my children, um, well, three of them finished college, two of them left.

Uh, one of them became, he's a Michelin chef.

Uh, you know, has had amazing experiences.

My youngest son.

And, uh, Clare, I knew she didn't want to go to school.

Mary, do you have any advice for us on happiness?

Did you ever think you'd still be playing festivals at the age of 70?

[laughs] I didn't, no.

I did, uh, Glastonbury in 2023, [laughs] and I hadn't done it for years, so that was quite a, a thing.

But, um, yeah, no, um, but, but you see the lineup of people who do stuff now, and, uh, they're, they're kind of, like, sure, Robert, the, the, every...

You know, there's people coming back to do gigs that haven't done gigs for years, you know? And I'm certainly finding that with myself, my own career.

I have done more gigs this year, and I have more gigs left until the next May, please, please be the gods, um, than I've ever had before.

So that's really, you know, for, for 30 years, I'd say.

Yeah.

Oh, right.

So they did an album called Mirrors with Peggy Lee in 1968.

Yes.

And famously, it got slaughtered and it got deleted after a thousand copies were sold in the States and it just kind of disappeared.

But it's controversial because there's one song on it about the rise of fascism in America in 1939.

There's songs about a friend of theirs who was who was outed because he was gay and he was outed by his murder.

He was a tango dancer from Argentina.

Oh, Thomas Mann.