Well, I think

the shock anyway for me is just, you know, I think that's the most difficult piece for me is the shock because he was such a vibrant kind of magnetic soul that brought people together and You know, he kind of led, you know, he was kind of a leader in the sense of just music.

And I don't mean that as in in the music industry.

I'm just talking about in the world because he could be playing to a huge, big stadium of a thousand people or five thousand people.

But then the next night he could be sitting in a pub down in the local and he will be doing the exact same thing.

But he would be bringing people together.

You know, and I think that's what he was just so down to earth.

So, like, were you the only two singers in the house then?

How are you this morning?

Yeah, I mean, look, this is really devastating news.

I don't think any of us can believe it.

Actually, you know, I was talking to my sister, Mary, uh, yesterday, and she said she only spoke to him a few weeks ago at a, you know, at a funeral, and she had a lovely conversation with him.

Danny and Róisín and my daughter and my son, we're all just heartbroken.

And we wouldn't have been that close, we weren't close friends with him, but we all knew him.

Um, we were all very, you know ...

Tell us about how you did know him.

A sad day for his family, for his friends, but for the whole country.

Oh, my God, I'm so deeply saddened.

And my huge condolences go out to his beautiful wife and little baby, little boy, Christy and Moira and Christy and obviously all his family and friends and his band and all his crew and everybody that worked with him.

You know, all the people that have worked with him down through the years.

You know, he it's just such a huge loss to us all, really.

It's he was a beautiful human being.

And that's the only way, you know, Glenn never had any notions about himself.

Yeah, it was a sing

Was, was there a stigma attached to that?

Huge stigma.

I remember, and, and, you know, I was very lucky, you know, that my parents, uh, allowed me to keep my son because there was another girl that I used to know who, who, she was, she was up working in Dublin.

She was in the civil service, but she was younger than me.

She was at like 18.

Um, and she, I remember she was pregnant at the same time as me.

We were both unmarried mothers, and we used to find solace in each other.

But it is a different version of what you envisaged, Frances.

You're disappointed at the, uh, government's bill?

I am, and I, you know, I mean, the thing is, Shane, what the government really has announced today is a partial ban on trade with those illegal settlements.

And just to say a little bit about what's being proposed, like, in the West Bank, you know, tonight, Israeli settlers are being driven, you know, off their land, Palestinian families off their land at gunpoint.

Their, their, their homes are being seized.

Palestinians are being forcibly, uh, displaced from the communities with settler violence frequently assisted or facilitated by Israeli security forces.

And just only recently, I just want to say this as well, that Médecins Sans Fron- Frontières documented that a family of six were shot while simply driving home.

Only two sons survived, and their, they were brothers, were five and seven years old, and that was by settler violence.

What's your response to that?