Hi, podcast listeners.

Feisty CEO Sarah here.

And just before your episode starts, I wanna tell you about the great deal we have going on right now for our winter training programs for cycling, running, and strength training.

All of the programs include four months of daily workouts, but also weekly live calls and emails, a catalog of educational materials, and the ultimate group chat with women who are helping each other and cheering each other on.

And this winter, Feisty has expanded our winter training programs to include running, cycling, or strength training with a barbell.

Our Feisty coaches have written progressive plans that build week by week.

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... and that changed the game for me because I always thought I couldn't run or, um, you know, because I couldn't run fast, so I thought I couldn't run, [laughs] you know? And, um, when I started training by heart rate, I got a plan that was according to my heart that day.

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Do you know what I mean? Like, that's okay.

There's nothing about this thing that dictates anything.

It's a trend.

You know, it is, it can help you.

And so I think, you know, somebody was just complaining the other day.

She said, I wish my watch would show me only the data that I want to see.

What advice do you have for consumers of this information who are sick of the nonsense and noise? And then how have you personally navigated that in terms of maintaining credibility in this field, knowing it may hurt the clicks and the downloads? How have you played that game?

... for people who don't.

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So Sally Edwards was like, she had...

Yeah, Sally Edwards had the Danskin Women's Triathlon Series at the time.

So, um, this was 20 years ago or so.

And in that series, no single competitor, it was women's triathlon series, no single competitor came in last.

Sally Edwards came in last in every single race.

All right, Mardi, these, uh, endeavors you're talking about are just so amazing, and, uh, tell us, tell us about how being athletic has changed how you interact with the world.