and

part of my learning.

So, you know, the reconnection is possible with all of our beloveds, with our ancestors on the other side.

And the Marys are here also to help with that.

And so then it gets very personal.

It moves from being intellectual and historical into pretty real.

What has happened over the centuries, even millennia, is, as you're saying, the suppression, the hiding, and the distortion of the sacred feminine, who has always been here, is here now, and will be here.

So I'd love to know your thoughts all around this.

What first sparked your fascination with ancient feminine spiritual traditions and made you suspect that essential truths had been lost? Well, you know, I

think that I was seeking a spiritual connection with the divine and I, I intuited that because I'd been grown up in school and had gone to college and was good at school, I intuited that, well, I'll find it if I just explore enough, you know, intellectually, right? I will uncover all of the stones and boulders and rocks where all that stuff is in there.

So that was my way in because I was, you know, School was an option for women when we were little and growing up and so forth.

So that was my ticket in.

And I just had this natural fascination with... anything having to do with the ancient goddesses and gods, the ancient histories.

And this just grew.

It got deeper and deeper.

So what's with the rose and the significance of the rose and Mother Mary? Yeah, I've

But you said that, uh, eventually it got corrupted, right?

Yes.

You know, like all good things on our planet [laughs], in duality and the density, um, the beautiful things are hijacked.

You know, they're, they're taken over, they're corrupted, they're distorted, not through the actions of the people themselves who carry these beautiful lineages, but through the pressures and the influences and, um, y- you know, uh, th- the, um, I would even say putting guns to people's head type of, uh, activity of, you know, the archons essentially [laughs].

As you were talking earlier, Miguel, um, w- these forces that are, that are obviously talked about in the Gnostic sources, and they have resonances in what a lot of the oracles and channelers are saying today, many of whom have not even ever read the Gnostic sources, but it's the same phenomenon, whereby, um, our, our whole domain has been dragged down through the action of these beings.

And so people like the Marys and like Yeshua, um, who periodically pop up and try to keep these traditions alive to help humanity along, are well aware of these pressures, these problems, um, the distortions that will come even in their own messages.

Witness the Christian tradition, which has largely turned around, right, Miguel? All of those beautiful Gnostic messages and intentions, and have turned it into something for colonization and witch burning and, um, warring and, uh, control of people's minds and so forth.

Right.

Okay

... by Anne.

So after Mary was born, Mary was given over to the temple, and then, um, Anne's partner, Joachim, probably died and she may have connected with another man named Cleopas or Cleophas.

And it was either probably through that union that she gave birth to this other girl.

And the story says they named her Mary in consolation over the fact that she had lost her other Mary to the temple, you know.

But I, what I've discerned is that Mary comes from the Egyptian Mari, which means divine love or the beloved of the divine or the one who loves.

So it's a love name, a love title that really was a priestess title.

Mm-hmm