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Joanna Kujawa

Joanna Kujawa

Polish-born, Australia-based scholar and "spiritual detective," author of Alien Goddess: UFOs, AI and the Goddesses of Ascension and The Other Goddess: Mary Magdalene and the Goddesses of Eros and Secret Knowledge.

Sep 25, 2026

54:57
Yeah.
54:57
And I think, and I don't know, I hope I'm not pessimistic because I also read, uh, Rudolf Steiner and so on.
55:03
I think that we do live in, uh, the age of Ahriman, so to speak, which is this kind of- ... almost natural progression of human consciousness towards technology when we make particular choices.
55:15
Yeah.
55:15
So I think that the majority of humanity will go in this direction.
55:20
But the optimistic side, uh, is that we will come out of this because the spirit is stronger.
55:27
You know, this beautiful gift is not going to be forgotten.

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Yeah.
32:30
the energy of the teachings?
32:31
So this is my main argument.
32:33
So even if there was lineage, so what? Are they doing anything good? You know, like, because I, I, I don't see it unless they do, but you know, they cannot say, but there is actually no evidence for this.
32:44
And, and they, all the school, you know, that's tried to prove that Merovingian kings were actually part of the lineage.
32:52
There was about 400 years gap, you know, between things that I may discuss and in Merovingian kings, plus they were not particularly, you know, interesting kings.
33:03
They were not like enlightened kings.
33:07
They were just regular medieval king guys, you know, they were just raging wars.

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That's so nice.
9:29
Yeah.
9:29
And then I finished the first, the part on AI.
9:32
I got just like an order, you know, in my head, now look into UFOs and look at your friend's, uh, childhood friend's experience with, you know, what she believed she experienced actually.
9:44
Uh, uh, she was an experiencer, uh, uh, of UFOs.
9:48
And from there, you know, I wrote the part about UFOs as interdi- interdimensional beings elaborating mostly on Jeff Krypuk's and Diana's and my own experiences because now as it is anomalous, I could, you know, uh, uncover my own experiences.
10:04
And then, you know, the fa- third part of the book is dissection of all the myths [laughs] of the goddess, and they actually represent the downfall and again a rise of, uh, consciousness, higher level of consciousness.
10:19
And I go through, like, the, mm, myth of Inanna, Demeter and Persephone, and the Gnostic myth of Sophia, which is...

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Some wanted to enslave us, yeah.
8:48
If you-
8:48
So, uh, in, in your previous interview, you were explaining how, uh, Mary actually belonged to this particular, uh, priestess lineage, that they could generate a, a life without a, a partner, and that there was a long tradition of this, which was a sacred tradition.
9:07
But you said that, uh, eventually it got corrupted, right?

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Yes
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... and lower dimensions.
53:05
And it is also the remembrance of that lost wisdom and the desire to move back and reunite with this wisdom.
53:15
So I think that's why Sophia is such a beloved character because she's everything, and at the same time, she sh- she is lost like we are.
53:25
A part of her is lost like we are lost, right? And, and-
6:05
It was really like you were there in the pages with me.
6:08
Thank you, because this was my intention.
6:10
The whole thing, so what do I want to do now? I really want to connect with people on their journeys and share my own journey.
6:17
maybe even create a form of community.
6:20
But I do not see myself that much as a creative community, as a spiritual detective and an author, which means you have to allow me to go into the wilderness of esoteric teachings, discover what's going on there, experience what's going on there, because it's not only scholarly.
6:39
In fact, I'm using my scholarly training to understand what I experience spiritually and what other people experience spiritually.
6:46
to almost frame it in this way.

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So where do you feel we are in this cyclical nature of matriarchy, patriarchy, and how long do you feel we have before the patriarchal rulers die? of our nations and big tech corporations bring us into an extinction level of situation and what immediate interventions do you feel we should all participate in?

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