Mm.

And one of those symbols is Cathy.

Also, she goes by Kate in some parts of the book, and Cathy is supposed to represent original sin.

She's supposed to represent evil.

And the reason I, I point this out is because the confrontation between Cathy and her s- her son Cal is one of the most important scenes in, in, in the book, um, because Cal, her son, who she abandoned as a baby...

Um, she abandoned both Cal and his brother and then shot the dad as she was fleeing.

So she's a real piece of work.

So what's interesting to me is, uh, are, do you recommend the Netflix adaptation of the story?

Uh, what are your thoughts?

Yeah.

So, you know, my interest in this kind of comes from this moment we're living under.

Um, young people are increasingly adopting socialism and trending towards more command economy interventions from the federal government.

So I, I was thinking back into the classroom, like, where did this really start? Where did our, um, lack of knowledge about economics really come from? And one of the first things I remember being taught was about the Great Depression.

And the way it's taught in schools goes something like this.

So, you know, in the 1920s, we have the Roaring '20s, and everyone is getting a little too eager and a little too crazy, and then these mean men on Wall Street, you know, they just destroyed the stock market for the rest of the American people, um, leaving us in the dust.

Yeah

Yeah.

But, I, I mean, a lot of this happened because of technological progress, um, economic innovation, and, and the places that the free market has touched our lives.

Our lives have become better, but you're absolutely right.

We don't understand the, um, the pleasure of hard work, I think.

We have a high time preference society.

If I wanted to get a dopamine hit, I can open Instagram and watch a reel that's perfectly curated to my individual interests and tastes, and I can post something online, and it can do numbers, and I can get a dopamine h- hit every time I get a like.

But, you know, that compared to, do I want to spend hours toiling for something so that at the end I can enjoy the product? You saw this revival of, um, traditional living, right? The tradwife movement.

There's something different going on.

You know, it's a lost cause for Republicans." Where, where do you see this right now?

I mean, I do think Republicans should be worried.

Republican voters want a reason to get out there and vote, and I don't think Trump is selling a co- a compelling enough vision because he is not on the ballot.

Mm-hmm.

So these candidates need to come out with a comprehensive vision for what America is going to be like under their leadership.

Right now, we're plastering the socialists up on the screen-

We spend more on interest on the national, or at least we're projected to next year, spend more on interest on the debt than we are on the entire military.

Think about it like this.

Not only are young people funding these massive entitlement programs for older generations, but we're also just paying off spending that happened prior to this year, right? It's no wonder.

This has been said many times by people in my circles.

No wonder young people are looking at our system of governance and our economic system and saying, well, why can't I get a piece of the pie? Why am I Why am I being taxed with nothing in return? This $5,000 check that Trump is promising will cost us over $1 trillion.

I don't think the GOP is really taking the influence of progressive economics seriously because we are becoming our enemy.

We are playing by the rules of the game that they established.

And that's not that complex of a policy agenda, but fixing the whole ideological system and our education and media and a whole political party at this point is a much bigger fish to fry.

I mean, it's just some might call it a little petty, but what do you think? It's

incredibly petty.

I mean, Trump is obviously trolling here and everyone's taking the bait.

I actually found out that Ontario is named after Lake Ontario, which is a Huron word for the Lake of Shining Waters.

So the Canadian province actually got its name from the lake, but really, again, This is a trolling distraction from the trade war, right, or just elevating it to the national conscience.

I think free trade empowers free people and it empowers everyone's economies.

I want Canada and the U.S. to get to a situation where there are no tariffs between either of them.

There you go.

I would love to dig into why these newer movies really resonate with my generation.

But I will say this, you know, I think it's Disclosure Day, right? That's the name of the film.

Yes.

Is this...

Correct me if I'm wrong, this is like his attempt to understand Gen Z and kind of make a movie about us.

That, I think, is where, you know, older generations miss the mark.

Yeah.

You know, if you're paying half your paycheck in rent, why is the socialist is the only one who seems to care? Such an effective trap, Maggie.

Yeah, and we also have to think about what kind of jobs these people have.

A lot of them took on massive amounts of debt or went to these really hoity-toity universities, are now living in the city, paying astronomical rent prices, and are either artists that are trying to be independent or they're working for nonprofits where they take care of homeless people or help... queer, people of color, what have you, right? They're not making a ton of money and they're spending a lot of it on rent.

And so here comes Zoran Mamdani who's saying, you know, I'm going to make sure that your rent gets lowered.

And he has a very clear action plan that to a lot of these people makes logical sense because they haven't studied economics or at least they haven't studied real economics, right? Right.

So they hear, you know, your rent prices are going to be lowered.

And it's from someone who's not establishment, right? They've probably heard a million times from these establishment politicians that they're going to lower the cost of living.

Do you think that young people hear that and nod or do young people know, not know that's what they voted for? I mean,