So, so in the moment that you each don't share, when you protect, do you still care about Steve even though you're protecting?

Oh, absolutely.

And I think it's more I'm trying to protect the relationship.

For me, not only protecting myself, but protecting the relationship 'cause I don't want it to be, you know, the muddy the waters or whatever.

It, it, you know, just like it's...

Yeah, I mean, you know, I think, I think I look at it that way that, well, if you hear sometimes the crazy stuff that I think or that you're, you're not gonna love me as much or [laughs]

Mm-hmm.

And which is kind of like, wow, how could that be? But, you know, a couple of, in the intensive we did and, um, you know, the, some of our- Maybe deep things that never came out before, um, have brought us closer in that, in that way.