parts of the hands you're talking about it yeah how did you get the idea like I remember after in the Feldenkrais training you went out with Roger and you decided to start doing some groundwork with the horses and to see what would happen could you help them learn how to learn

well the reason we say 1975 was the beginning it's when I started the the Feldenkrais training.

And in the second day of that training, Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais made a statement that made me prick up my ears.

And it's a statement that a human could learn in one experience using gentle, habitual movements that activated new neural pathways to the brain, thereby giving more brain cells for learning, more potential for learning.

And I remember lying on the floor and my ears like pricking up like a horse and thinking, if If that is true for a horse, I mean, a human, could it be true for a horse? And what went through my mind is all the times I'd lunged a horse for a couple of weeks, did the walk and trot, and it was clear that they already knew it.

But we believed in those days that horses learn, long-time learners, you have to keep repeating over and over.

to do it.

was it?