Mm-hmm.

And then as time goes on, um, you know, I just thought, "This is ridiculous.

I wanna speak more about it." And as, and as I became, uh, obviously a mother and everything, I would talk to my kids about it.

Um, you know, and, um, now I feel like I definitely wanna be an advocate for suicide prevention because it is rampant.

I mean, it is, it is not just, uh, "I'm depressed.

I mean, I need m- medication." It's, it goes beyond that now.

And, um, so last year, I was in LA, and I did this Didi Hirsch.

Go.

Cute.

And everyone's like, how did they come up with that? I'm like, no, no, no.

I forced it.

They're growing up.

I'm like, give Glamour a kiss.

Glamour loves you.

I just interjected the word every time I could.

Or is it something that helps, you know, you guys to be able to relate to each other and just continue to grow and make a long lasting bestie relationship?

Aw

...

they didn't, they didn't when I launched them or, and when they were teenagers, but, you know, they're literally all in their 30s now, but they will all say me.

So, um, then it's a whole different stage.

You know, um, it- you do have best friends.

You have your, you know, obviously you're always gonna be a mother, but it's, it like, you know, Cindy was saying, it's this stage and this stage and this stage, and you need to look forward to the next stage.

And-You know, it's all good, and all the stages are good, and all the stages are hard

Yeah