It's always kind of been my issue with PFF, but specifically in the last three years, if you look at the brain drain... from pff look at the people who have left pff over the last three years it makes it less credible in my opinion i

think i think you're totally right because what it has been and is is like actually watching the plays and watching the decisions and grading each individual play and decision okay that's great well who's doing that Who's actually doing that now? And who are we trusting to do that now? I trust us as we watch, knowing full well what Caleb and Ben want to do, for the most part.

Like, we've got...

You know, we've got a really good idea now of what good quarterbacking is supposed to look like and good quarterbacking in this system.

And I don't find myself trusting the PFF system

day for Illinois.

We've got a little more space today, as did you, to include some of the baseball.

It was great to hear Ian Happ.

I, if they were at home, they should've done it.

So I got a question.

Um, I, I, I don't know about you guys, I was a little overwhelmed by the onslaught of football content added to my life after being so locked up with all the baseball content as well, and just the, the standard Sunday onslaught.

What is something that you have to do every football Sunday? The, is, is there anything...

Like, for me, I recorded it 'cause I didn't get a chance to watch it live.

I recorded it, and this morning I sat down with my little half bagel and cream cheese, and I watched every touchdown from every game from the red zone.

I need to see that at the end of the red zone day.

[screams]

I would say that is fairly common practice in 2026, as is the expected result.

Layla, I enjoyed you and Grody talking baseball.

As the reigning mayor of Worrytown, I've talked to a lot of my constituents over the last few days.

And I was at White Sox on Sunday, and I ran into a bunch of people on the concourse.

They're like, hey, are they going to...

Are they going to not finish this thing? Are they going to miss the playoffs? I'm like, I think they're in pretty good shape.

But the way that they're playing right now and the way that Milwaukee just owns the Cubs.

the MVP and not?

I

couldn't believe it.

They had a portion of – I think it was episode four because they're in the middle of trying to – they signed Terry and Arnold, and they took us through that process.

And, like, everything that went into signing them, including – being on the – like John Schneider being on the phone with Nicole Lynn, the super agent, and them discussing Arnold in like a super honest way.

And I was like, man, this is the type of access that Hard Knocks is supposed to be all about, and we're getting it.

So if you haven't – if you're like Speagues, and I completely understand anyone who looks at Hard Knocks, especially after the Bears experience on Hard Knocks and goes, I'm not that interested – I think you should give the Seahawks hard knocks a try because there's some stuff, and there's been some personal stuff.

I didn't know that Mike McDonald and OJ Brigance were really close, and then he died after a battle with ALS, and McDonald's breaking down in front of the team, talking about how important that man was to his life.

Done.

I've heard about it.

Stanley's mac and cheese, man.

Oh, my God.

And we used to go there like a bunch of us, like back in the olden days, like me, Tanny, Joe, Herbie, Ranji.

We'd go there on Monday nights because they had like the Monday night special and we'd watch like football and eat over there.

The other one for me is Zephyr.

like that place was amazing right off of Wilson and Ravenswood.

r.i.p missed that place

I

firmly believe that we should just, at some point, when we don't care about our license anymore, we should just play all of the outtakes from Ozzy's Blue Chew Read with Danny.

Oh, my God.

I don't think I've ever heard it.

One of the

funniest bits ever.

Yes.

That whole thing ended up being hilarious and Wayne being such a good sport and going dark for that whole thing on Chappelle's show was just hilarious.

the ultra back.

And he said that he kept, it's in the book too, but he kept saying that he kept missing championships by a year.

Like he signed with the Packers.

the year after they won.

He signed with the Broncos the year after they won.

He signed with the Patriots right before they went on their run and got cut at the end of training camp.

It's like dating

nugget he said about the pittsburgh guys talking about devin bush sat in my head for rent free Yeah, it's a good

Ain't no slag

heap tall enough.

That's what we decided on.

Protect your voice.

Here's what we decided, yes, Marshall, here's what we decided, though, that George McCaskey, all the goodwill that he got from being an umpire at the Savannah Bananas, he's destroying again just immediately.

We have the threat of George comments.

In the coming days, George McCaskey says the team will say more about plans.

I

I'm just wondering how what they're setting up now will relate to what's been in the Spideyverse cartoons with Miles Morales and everything, because I'm picking, I'm seeing those Easter eggs, I just don't know exactly what flavor they are yet.

It'll be interesting to see how they connect those dots, because even though it's, I mean, I guess it's figuratively and literally different universes, but I like where both of those, like what's happened with Spider-Man as a franchise, whether we're talking animated or the live action stuff, I think that they have gotten the tone of that character right.

The character of Peter Parker or Miles Morales, Spider-Man himself, he goes through so many different demos.

Everyone kind of likes Spider-Man.

And I remember seeing kids last week just walking down the street in their little Spider-Man shirts.

Yeah, right.

He seems to be someone that it's okay for you to love Spider-Man, where if you a Batman fan and you nine, We need to have a conversation.

Let's see Spider-Man.

It's like

a $5 million rental.

I can see it not being as expensive as you may think it would be.

My concern is, What version of you is coming back, and how much time do I have to make that determination if I'm the White Sox or the Cubs or whoever else might be trading for them?

And a lot of moves are about to get made in a very short period of time.

Here's what we've got coming up on the show today.

Joel Lorenzi is going to join us.

We want to pose a question to him about this group of draftees and their level of confidence and whether or not they know that they're going to get hit in the face by the NBA in the NBA season.

Listen, let me tell you all what was in my bag.

I had my Kyrie's that I don't even know how old they are.

They're probably like 10 years old.

I had my Kyrie's that I wore.

I had Gatorades, waters, and I have a massage gun on site.

And I was, I stretched, I warmed up for 25 minutes.

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Grody, have you played a game of anything since we played in the quarter of dreams today? Any basketball? Well, anything.

He was happy.

Well, the guy in the Dodgers booth was extremely happy.

He's a White Sox fan.

I got to see my guy, Stephen Nelson, and that was great.

And the vibe is right.

There's a shot that I hope that CHSN continues to show.

It's a drone shot.

we getting imminent weather again?

You guys know that feeling of what it's like when it's a communal – event and everybody feels the terror for two and a half quarters you know and then feels the joy of the comeback together and and everybody ends up feeling the same thing that's what my brother kept turning to me and say like everybody's feeling the same thing and that meant the celebs it meant the employees it meant the that you know the season ticket holders and it i theoretically meant the people who bought their one-offs for 30 grand a pop or whatever but you know It was a very cool communal sports event, and there's a lot to get into from it.

I meant to look at the ratings on it because the anxiety came through the television, too, Speaks.

As you're watching that, as I'm watching the end of the second quarter, I'm like, hmm, there's some missed opportunity here.

And the thing that bothered me the most is they had an opportunity to get Wimby like 25 straight minutes of rest.

And because of the way they played the second quarter, where he's still out there at the end of the half, you're like, ooh, that might be an issue going forward.

It was so poorly coached.

It was so poorly played out.

The trade deadline isn't what it used to be, as we know.