Lauren, how about you?

I guess if we're doing the history of Lauren, I got a master's degree in cello performance from the San Francisco Conservatory.

After that, I was touring a lot with a dance company called Merce Cunningham Dance Company.

And I think there I just did many creative explorations in terms of improvisation and electronic music.

And then I eventually moved to New York, lived there as a freelancer.

and continued to create music for dance, and then eventually kind of transitioned into doing some songwriting and other adventures like that creatively.

And so the way I offer guidance in these

areas is through songwriting.