And I'll turn it over now to Kenneth to begin today's conversation.

Thank you, Jane.

And thank you to the Evo Institute, to Jane Tyshinsky, to Alex Weiser, to Eddie Portnoy for making this possible.

Of course, thanks to my teacher and mentor, Steve Zipperstein, for taking part in this.

It's truly an honor to discuss An Unchosen People with Steve, who in some ways stands behind this book as he does, at least as an influence.

We'll see if he stands behind it otherwise, as he does all my work.

And I also want to thank everyone in the audience for your attention.

And that there may be other alternatives, not terribly attractive, somewhat grim in a humid, hot climate, for example, that may be better, even if you're not by any means ideologically persuaded that they're right.

And I'll turn it over now to Kenneth to begin today's conversation.

Thank you, Jane.

And thank you to the Evo Institute, to Jane Tyshinsky, to Alex Weiser, to Eddie Portnoy for making this possible.

Of course, thanks to my teacher and mentor, Steve Zipperstein, for taking part in this.

It's truly an honor to discuss An Unchosen People with Steve, who in some ways stands behind this book as he does, at least as an influence.

We'll see if he stands behind it otherwise, as he does all my work.

And I also want to thank everyone in the audience for your attention.

And that there may be other alternatives, not terribly attractive, somewhat grim in a humid, hot climate, for example, that may be better, even if you're not by any means ideologically persuaded that they're right.

And I'll turn it over now to Kenneth to begin today's conversation.

Thank you, Jane.

And thank you to the Evo Institute, to Jane Tyshinsky, to Alex Weiser, to Eddie Portnoy for making this possible.

Of course, thanks to my teacher and mentor, Steve Zipperstein, for taking part in this.

It's truly an honor to discuss An Unchosen People with Steve, who in some ways stands behind this book as he does, at least as an influence.

We'll see if he stands behind it otherwise, as he does all my work.

And I also want to thank everyone in the audience for your attention.

And that there may be other alternatives, not terribly attractive, somewhat grim in a humid, hot climate, for example, that may be better, even if you're not by any means ideologically persuaded that they're right.

And I'll turn it over now to Kenneth to begin today's conversation.

Thank you, Jane.

And thank you to the Evo Institute, to Jane Tyshinsky, to Alex Weiser, to Eddie Portnoy for making this possible.

Of course, thanks to my teacher and mentor, Steve Zipperstein, for taking part in this.

It's truly an honor to discuss An Unchosen People with Steve, who in some ways stands behind this book as he does, at least as an influence.

We'll see if he stands behind it otherwise, as he does all my work.

And I also want to thank everyone in the audience for your attention.

And that there may be other alternatives, not terribly attractive, somewhat grim in a humid, hot climate, for example, that may be better, even if you're not by any means ideologically persuaded that they're right.

And as you noted, I mean, it's worth noting that

this is, of course, linked to the perhaps, I'm sure the audience knows about the great Evo autobiography competitions that yielded such wonderful, roughly 600 incredible Ego documents, some of which are available in English, thanks to Jeff and Barbara Christian-Blake Gimlet and others.

And though he begins that first collection is in 32, there's a second larger collection in 34, and he starts working with these very, very closely.

And this culminates in 1935 in his brilliant, although very strange, book-length prolegomenon to future research on Polish Jewish youth called The Path to Our Youth.

So that's one dimension.

It's very central.

There's more and more interest.

But this gives way