Yeah.

Um- But I do dream of kind of y- that, that holy passion or holy, uh, frustration.

I dream of there being, like, spaces where the- The messy people, like, that, that high church somehow meets kind of where we all are, we're, we're all living in the mess kind of, um, a regular life.

Uh, so you know, it's also that combination of truth and grace, uh-

Mm-hmm.

Um, the, you know, it's we're saying making disciples in community on mission, and I think that from my experience, the discipleship is happening when in, in those moments where you're gathered around the meal and you're really, um, with, with all kinds of people, you know, whatever, in different life stages and that's where I see the transformation happening.

Um, and I think it's, it's beautiful, and, um, it, I think it's worth or even to tell ourselves it's worth to con-