Katie, could you set

up the role play? So the Connected Families Framework that we mention all the time, and we're kind of getting back to the basics here this month of September.

That framework has four levels.

And often when we do a role play, we kind of do it all at once.

But this time we want to just take those first two foundational levels of the framework, the foundation level and the connect level.

We're looking to send messages of grace before and during and after grace.

challenging discipline scenarios.

And we're taking out some of the mystery to hopefully help him to get back in the door.

If someone logs in on their phone, probably or on their desktop, what do they see? What's there for them?

So it's going to look a lot like some apps that you are probably already using.

There's a home screen where you're going to find tabs.

If you're on your phone, you're just going to find tabs for all of the courses that are included in the CF community.

And that's that you get seven of those flagship courses.

It includes sibling conflict.

It includes discipline that connects.

It's just wonderful.

please explain what in the world is going on?

Yes, we are back at it about a year later, which is kind of crazy that it's been almost a whole year since that episode.

So just as a reminder of what we talked about, inventory roadless areas or IRAs, as they're often referred to as, make up some of the most iconic and intact landscapes in the U.S. from North Carolina to Montana to California, everywhere in between.

These lands support local communities.

They support tribal sovereignty and a $1.3 trillion outdoor economy.

So these landscapes are critical for our industry and really folks from all walks of life across the country.

The roadless rule was put in place in 2001, and that has safeguarded all of these areas for 25 years and has protected 60 million acres of national forest lands across the lower 48 and Alaska, mainly from industrial development, such as logging, road building, reconstruction, and mining, things like that.

Who's going to be impacted by this and how? Yeah.

What's been happening inside the

community? Yeah.

Hi, it's so good to be here again.

It's always, there's always something new happening in the community.

Parents are submitting their questions and chatting about their wins.

This week we had a parent ask a a question about retaliation and constant complaining and fault finding.

She was just feeling really bogged down with some of these behaviors with her kids.

that then I can fold over and offer some quick empathy.

Um, so yeah, we, we want people to feel good about their voice at the end of it.

Yeah.

We-- the whole book came about because we kept hearing the same question over and over.

It was coming up in, like, any time that we would teach a class or do a Zoom or, you know, talk to creatives in person, the question of, like, "How do I find my style?" came up over and over and over.

And so when we were like, "I think we wanna write a book.

What should it be about?" it was pretty quick to come to the conclusion that it should be about that.

Um, so we, you know, didn't necessarily have all the answers in mind when we started the book.

Mm.

So Katie, why don't you set up some of the questions that the CF community have been giving around this topic?

All right.

So I have sort of a mashup of questions that people have asked.

And I kind of put it into this little story.

And I'm going to throw this to Pam to field for us what she would say, how she would respond.

So let's say a parent is writing in to ask for advice.

And they say, I'm a mom of a nine, seven and five year old.

I'm coaching my child and giving them the tools so that they can be responsible for their actions and their words

Yeah.

They think I'm gonna have to, like, commit to this really tiny narrow definition of one aesthetic and stick to it for the rest of my life, and that terrifies the pants off of creatives because we're creative.

We wanna explore.

We wanna evolve.

We wanna change our work as we go throughout our life, and the idea of committing to something so small as, like, one particular medium or one, you know, way of mark-making, that's, you know, not something that a lot of people feel comfortable with.

So I think that's the, the kind of area where we took this book and we, we zoomed way out and we said, "Okay.

Instead of starting with I'm gonna find the one particular aesthetic, what if I am looking for a pattern in who I am as a person, in what my work looks like, how that manifests in lots of different ways?" So we start by, like, you're gonna do some, like, basic, you know, personality, uh, introspection.

Yeah.

What do the proclamations mean?

Yeah, it's a great question, and we've seen this on quite a few channels in the last 24 hours or so at the time of our chat here.

Essentially, these two proclamations effectively roll back almost the entirety of the boundaries of both Bears Ears National Monument and Grand Surcase Escalante National Monument.

The new boundaries for Grand Surcase Escalante would encompass about 182,000 acres, and Bears Ears National Monument would be about 122,000 acres.

That's about a 90% rollback or reduction for each of those two currently existing monument boundary designations.

These are larger than what we saw in 2017.

We've seen some similar actions taken place with the former administration in 2017.

Okay, so what do these proclamations do, not just to this park and monuments, but to our parks and public lands more broadly? I can't help but feel like this is teeing up to even more horrific moves.

Katie, what do you think of the live-action 2026 version of Moana?

I feel, here we go again.

[laughs] Um, I feel like, for some reason, I'm always on every review that we cover these Disney live-action things, and so I'm like, "Oh, God, [laughs] here's the same thing all over again." But I, I really wanna try and, like, focus on a few other things here.

So I will say that, like, I do love A Musical Man.

Like, I am a musical theater child grown into an adult, so this is a pretty good musical.

Lin-Manuel Miranda is so talented.

We all know this.

Not saying, like, Robin Williams level here, but just give me something that is a bit more dynamic and not as stiff.

How'd it go? Yes.

Yes.

It was really fun.

There were people showing up from all different parts of the country.

And the overwhelming sense was for me as the moderator there, you know, fielding some questions and leading a discussion.

It's just, I could see and people were saying that, I'm not alone.

I can see that I'm not alone.

So let me ask you, like, how do you get the questions that you answer?

Are your courses and things like that the main bread and butter of the business?

It's the education piece and the sponsorship piece that typically, like, bring in the most for us right now.

Um, we invested a lot in the beginning of us taking over Good Type in the education side of things, and we, um, really, like, kind of set that up to be somewhat passive.

Like, some of the, a lot of the courses that we have are just, like, um, don't require us to walk people through, and we've set up a lot of systems and everything.

So most of that stuff is automated, which is super helpful, which has allowed us now to start to move over and c- try to concentrate on building the design side of our business as well, to, like, nurture ourselves personally.

'Cause w- we, we love doing the education piece, and we absolutely, like, really believe in the core of that, and we want to make, uh, business more accessible for artists.

But at the same time, the more energy we spend on that, the less we have for, like, the, the stuff that we love to do, um, or, like, the art that we love to make.

Mm

So let me ask you, like, how do you get the questions that you answer?

When you download the app or you're using the platform, there's a tab that's the community feed, and that's where we- parents are posting their wins, things that are going well as they're applying the framework, and also their challenges.

And, and then I have also another tab for live events, so you can see everything that's coming up.

And I asked, "Hey, what's a current challenge that you're going through? We're gonna have a live event.

We're gonna get to address some of these questions." So parents popped in those answers there, and we have a collection of those that were submitted.

And what's great about doing a live Q&A or a group coaching, there are similarities between what people are asking about and what their challenges are.

Why don't you introduce the first question?

All right, great.

Yeah

... that's gonna be unique to, to every one of us.

And no matter your age or your stage of parenting or the mistakes you've made or the baggage that you carry, there is hope for you in this moment that you're in right now.

So bring what's bugging you to the community.

And if you're willing to try a new idea or adapt a tool to your family life and then reflect on it and share even the smallest wins, over time growth will happen.

I-

Yeah

... into our foundation in this moment that I'm facing right now? How do we go for connection right here? We just...

What was the inspiration behind it?

We knew we wanted to write a book.

We were excited about that kind of collaboration.

And it didn't take us very long to land on what the subject matter was going to be.

We just kind of had a conversation about, well, what's the question that we get asked the most? Like, what is the biggest topic that we're hearing time and time again in the courses that we're doing, the webinars, whenever we work one-on-one with coaching students? And then the question that we've asked ourselves like so many times throughout our careers as artists is, And that question was, how do I find my style? So we knew that was going to be the basis of the book.

And it was interesting to watch our perspectives evolve too on the subject as we went along in writing it, because we had some things that we knew we wanted to include, obviously, but we've really realized that there's this perspective shift that needs to happen in how artists are going about their this process of answering this question, or even is this the right question to be asking, right? So the reason behind why people are asking this question is smart and makes so much sense.

Like, why do I find my style? Well, or how do I find my style? Well, behind that is like, How do I come across with a consistent voice? How do people get to know me as an artist? How do people know what to hire me for? How do I feel more comfortable and confident in what I wanna create? So the questions behind that question are solid.

I feel like Katie, you gotta take this one because this is like near and dear to your heart.