Podcast appearances · Radar

Kathleen McDonough

Co-founder and co-host of the Shifting People Podcast; founder of Evercruiting Technology, an AI hiring assistant for service businesses.

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APPEARANCES

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PODCASTS

Jul 22, 2026

The 10:01pm Test

Jul 22 · 20m

AnthonyHOST

4:27

Kathleen, what do you think?

Kathleen McDonoughGUEST

4:29

I mean, you said if you take the guests away, there is no business, right? But we kind of saw both things happen in COVID, right? You took the guests away, the business started to fall.

Kathleen McDonoughGUEST

4:39

But then because the business started to fall, you had to lay off employees.

Kathleen McDonoughGUEST

4:43

And then right after COVID, there were no employees, right? We're in this big, like...

Kathleen McDonoughGUEST

4:48

We can, no one can find employees and businesses suffer.

Kathleen McDonoughGUEST

4:52

Businesses closed because there were no employees as well.

Kathleen McDonoughGUEST

4:54

So it works both ways.

5 MINS LATER

Derek WilliamsonGUEST

10:12

I'm thinking on this a bit more.