Any questions so far? Should I be stopping after each term to give you guys a chance to ask questions? Yes, please, Kat.

May have completely misunderstood, but is awareness that which knows consciousness? Like, does it illuminate consciousness? Is, is awareness, or is that, is it's not this or that? I'm trying to put it into this or it's that.

Yeah.

Does that help?

Thank you very much.

I'm just wondering if awareness is, it has, it's to do with like subject-object con- um, contact, or is awareness kind of outside of that type of thing?

Wow.

Yeah, like it, it's an incredibly frustrating golf course for most people.

They hate playing it as pros.

And there was one guy, I can't remember his name, but he, uh, like, all, every other shot, he nearly broke his club.

Like, it, there was one point where he was in a bunker that was probably like 20 feet down, and he was shooting, if this is the side, he was shooting off the side, trying to get out the other side.... missed, landed on the other side, and like three times just slammed his club on the ground.

So many people were missing putts.

Everyone was upset.

Yeah, here, I'm gonna look it up.

Okay.

That was really important for us, not necessarily for a nap, but the reset.

The park was feeling very crowded at that point.

We were ready to c- to be re-energized at that minute, so I would say that is something that is still relevant with older kids.

But to your point about the 10, 11 window, while the physical logistics are easier, the emotional needs are still very much there, right? They want to be seen on the trip.

Because my kids have visited before, they have opinions about what they do and don't wanna do, and they really still need the downtime, even if they don't know to ask for it, or maybe they push back a little, right? [laughs] Like, they want to do one more ride.

I guess one thing that we do when we approach the parks is we are going to budget for Lightning Lanes.

I am excited to move on to cruise stuff, um, but before I jump into cruise questions, I wanted to ask you logistically how you got from Polynesian to the ship and how, like, did that all go smoothly?

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Happy Mother's Day, everybody.

All right.

So, [clears throat] "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you have constructed.

The ability to destroy a planet is nothing next to the power of the Force." Or was it the dark side? I haven't seen it in a while.

Next to the power of the Force.

That was it.

And that's your favorite Vader quote?

I could think of a few right now.

No, literally.

Like, it doesn't take long.

If you respect and love and care about somebody, it does not take months and months and months for them to realize what you need to make yourself feel loved.

Girl, I literally, one of my closest friends right now, Lena, she li- we literally met at the gym in February.

And girl, two weeks in we were over here filling each other's cups.

We over here like, "Oh my gosh, you like this? Like, this made me think of you." Like, you know? Like-

Yeah

Mm-hmm

... incredible doctors, incredible technology, things are advanced.

You have all the options, but it's the access and affordability that are the biggest issue when it comes to IVF, and so many people cannot afford it.

And I think when medical tourism booming, a lot of people are, wanna, seeing other options and, and going abroad.

And I've been part of a medical tourism.

I've done it myself personally for forever.

My mom did it for her cancer.

To wrap it up, Cat, I would love to ask you what do you know now about being an IVF baby and being in this world that you didn't know then that people listening might be able to kind of learn from?

How's, um, podcast fame treating you?

I'm not...

I ju- literally just said, "If I had a pound for every single time someone said to me, 'I watched your podcast,' and I know what they're gonna say before they even said it, I'd be able to buy a Gucci handbag today."

I can pop that to you

... a mechanism that, like, we have on the wall that they cut the chips with and it broke.

Louis broke it.

So all of us were all standing there.

We're like-

I don't know if we actually know the details, but-

'Cause, like, that would be solar-powered storing of energy, I guess.

Um, and so then she was, like, ran into her room and, like, started, like, looking under her bed and her roommate's bed.

Oh, oh.

I, I mean, this is kind of maybe a little out there, but even just for the peace of mind, is there, like, a priest or someone-

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Oh my goodness.

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We see patterns, and specifically we're very good at recognizing human faces.

So I think if, if you wake up, you know, you're a little groggy and you look out your window and you see something that you identify as a face, it's a very slim to none chance that it is actually a face.

Yeah.

[laughs] What? That sounds awesome.

And we created a tab called Seminars, so.

Yep.

Uh, there's also, we might be looking to purchase lonestonese seminar.com. That'd be awesome.

And, uh, so stay tuned on that one at some point.

It was like a midlife crisis for the both of you [laughs].

Exactly.

And then, I, we just started googling sex and, and found a club in the area and went to the club and met tr- uh, made a profile on one of the websites and met friends.

And, uh, I had sex with the second guy I've ever had sex with after we met some couples, and it just went from there.

So, like, where along this timeline, uh, do you start having other f- relationships?

I would say I got a little itchy with the group we were with, so I ventured out and found a guy that was five hours away, but we hit it off, and that was a pretty good relationship for about three years.

And in the meantime, my husband found a woman that he developed a relationship with.

So we would, you know, be together for a certain amount of time, and then every other weekend or weekends we would go visit that friend.

So did you take the purse to her mom?

I did, and that was like the worst.

Oh my gosh, the worst.

That was like the worst day.

I remember I went, I [laughs] I went to her house.

I had the purse.

I knocked on the door.

So was Rachel in the house?

Did anything go down there?

Yeah.

When we got to the park, we started playing ball with some of the guys that we knew from the neighborhood, and I remember there was this guy named Chris, and, uh, honestly, he kinda gave me the chills, you know? Um, being har- being around him made me uneasy, and I never really got a good vibe from him.

And there was also Bill, who was this really tall, slender, uh, dude, and he was really nice, and I knew he had, like, a little crush on me, and I think Rachel found it to be cute, you know? But I, I, I hated it, because I definitely didn't feel the same way.

But he was so nice and polite to me that, you know, I just...

I, I was always n- I was always nice to Bill, and I respected him.

And both Bill and Chris had already done some jail time for different crimes.

You've gone too far.

You're trying to make-

... that's when it gets to a point of it's just, like, shut up.

That's like saying bars are, like, the reason, like, alcoholics exist.

Like, have some personal accountability.

Um, I, like, the...

I'm not gonna say, like, masturbation addiction isn't a problem.

Like, there's definitely guys spending way too much money on me, but, um, I...

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How much do you think your parents were paying to have you attend school there?

The initial first month deposit I think was non-refundable $10,000.

I'm not really sure about the monthly tuition there, but I imagine it's similar to Copper Canyon, so in, like, the $5,000, $6,000 a month range.

I didn't have much money in my account each month.

College applications are expensive, so I only applied to the one school that gave me a application fee waived, and I got into that school.

That was Virginia Commonwealth University.

I was prepping to go there, but when I turned 18, that's when the whole attack therapy thing about me potentially hacking happened.I was so upset.

That's avocadomattress.com, avocadomattress.com.

Although Lake Montezuma RTC LLC and Sedona Sky Academy, Inc. maintain active business statuses according to the Arizona Corporation Commission, the program is listed online as temporarily closed.

closed.The former Sedona Sky Academy and Copper Canyon Academy property now operates as an Emodicare facility called Emodihome Rimrock.

In 2024, Emodicare launched in Arizona, led by Moesh Lobel as founder and CEO, offering residential, educational, and therapeutic programs for youth.

While the exact relationship with Emodicare and Sedona Sky's former operations remains unclear, we have reached out to Emodicare for comment and have not received a response at the time of this episode's release.

I'm Tiffany Reese, and this is Something Was Wrong.

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I'm thirty-five years old.

Did you try to convince them to, like, let you come home?

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Hi, I'm Kat.

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<< Irene wants to thank you for giving her some time to breathe.

Dolph was waiting so damn patiently, while she got it together, while she binded some boys.

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Don say to look, but never touch, 'til Big Jim slap your girl.

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