Setting aside this personal reflection, I'd love to turn to you, Kabila, and ask how you approach the act of walking and how it informs your practice.

First thing from my side is that walk is, uh, barely a question of humanity in its expression.

That's what makes us, by the way, special.

We can walk.

We can stand for a long time and walk.

And I think the first step of a human being is always political.

It's political gesture.

The ocean, the, the mountain, the hills, the forest, anything connect the people, no? Yeah, is it just now.