What's the one that's really stood out, the one that you thought, that's a really interesting problem, really interesting discussion?

I'm really focused on compliance and legal pitfalls and things that organizations face.

So there was a session around that that was really interesting to hear the different leaders' perspectives on how they're handling some of the legal compliance issues around AI and pay transparency and things like that.

The interaction with people that attend, with vendors really, it's a completely different approach.

Wreckfest is one of the most engaging conferences that I've been at, but I think what makes it special is the people.

And maybe it's because you're not in a Vegas And so it's just more relaxed.

People are having more fun, open to conversations.

And one of the things that we were doing on our stage is encouraging people to get up and meet someone.

I'm not even like lunchtime podcast guy.

I will always try if I'm, if I am trying to solve a problem currently where I am, I will do the research on who's going to be exhibiting and or who those customers are to try and reach out to those companies that work with them currently to see if their leaders are going to be at the same conference and, spend time with them to find out the real deal on what's going on, not just what the vendor's putting up there.

And I will make sure that I'm going to those vendors.

If it's something that I have an interest in, I'll look and see what vendors play in that space just to start to get to know them and see what they're selling.

But I am very intentional if I have a problem that I'm currently solving with technology.

This RecFest, I did not walk around the vendor booths as much as I normally do, partly because I was having too much fun catching up with my industry friends.

And then also I was hosting one of the stages a full day.

Just for everyone who's confused by what I just asked.