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Jul 30, 2026
Is Grey Divorce on The Rise Because of Bad Communication?
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Jana KramerHOST
Like, so what is like, what is the overall theme? I mean, I know what it is, but like give our listeners, like, why should the mamas out there get this book?

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Well, I think one of the reasons that we decided to, we both care about these communication principles that are pulled from a book that he wrote called Speak Your Mind, which is asking yourself before you speak or write an email or whatever, Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? Is it clear? And so this is something, this is a message that he shared with me when I was in my 20s.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
And we were just talking recently, like he probably shared it with me when I was in middle school and high school, but it didn't absorb.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
But in my 20s, I really asked when I was in the joining the workforce and, you know, really needed to get a hold of how I communicated because I'm someone who will blurt and put my foot in my mouth.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Because we really think that it will actually help them romantically and professionally.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
But we thought, you know what? It probably would change the world if kids started learning these principles young.
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Is Grey Divorce on The Rise Because of Bad Communication?
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Joy EggerichsGUEST
Well, yeah, no, it's so funny because my husband, we've been married for 10 years and he is just now.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Just now reading the book and he felt embarrassed, but he, when we first were dating, he was like, I didn't, I didn't want to read the book.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Cause I didn't want to feel like I was trying to like work an angle, you know? And so he literally was just reading it last week and he kept putting it down and be like, man, I get it.
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Is Grey Divorce on The Rise Because of Bad Communication?
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Joy EggerichsGUEST
Well, yeah, no, it's so funny because my husband, we've been married for 10 years and he is just now.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
And he felt embarrassed, but he, when we first were dating, he was like, I didn't, I didn't want to read the book.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Cause I didn't want to feel like I was trying to like work an angle, you know? And so he literally was just reading it last week and he kept putting it down and be like, man.
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Is Grey Divorce on The Rise Because of Bad Communication?
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Joy EggerichsGUEST
Is it clear? And so this is something, this is a message that he shared with me when I was in my 20s, and we were just talking recently.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Like, he probably shared it with me when I was in middle school and high school, but it didn't absorb.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
[laughs] Um, but in my 20s, I really, that's when I was in the, joining the workforce and, you know, really needed to get ahold of how I communicated, 'cause I'm someone who will blurt, um, and put my foot in my mouth.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
So really these principles we want to get to parents, you know, because we really think that it will actually help them romantically and in, professionally.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Um, but we thought, you know what? It probably would change the world if kids started learning these principles young.
Is Grey Divorce on The Rise Because of Bad Communication?
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Joy EggerichsGUEST
Well, yeah, no, it's so funny because my husband, we've been married for 10 years and he is just now.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Just now reading the book and he felt embarrassed, but he, when we first were dating, he was like, I didn't, I didn't want to read the book because I didn't want to feel like I was trying to like work an angle, you know? And so he literally was just reading it last week and he kept putting it down and be like, man, I get it.
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Jana KramerHOST
Like, so what is like, what is the overall theme? I mean, I know what it is, but like give our listeners, like, why should the mamas out there get this book?
Is Grey Divorce on The Rise Because of Bad Communication?
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Joy EggerichsGUEST
Is it clear? And so this is something, this is a message that he shared with me when I was in my 20s, and we were just talking recently.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Like, he probably shared it with me when I was in middle school and high school, but it didn't absorb.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
That's when I was in the, joining the workforce, and you know, really needed to get ahold of how I communicated 'cause I'm someone who will blurt, um, and put my foot in my mouth.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
So really, these principles we want to get to parents, you know, because we really think that it will actually help them romantically and in, professionally.
Is Grey Divorce on The Rise Because of Bad Communication?
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Joy EggerichsGUEST
And you're bringing in children who have different environments that they've grown up.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Or just even on the playground, you know, one family might do one thing, one might do another.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
And so do-over feels like it's a really accessible way to kind of say, "I'm sorry, and I, I messed up how I communicated." Um, and so it, it's just...

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Like, we, my dad and I, we got into a little thing this spring, and he, like, came to me with, like, a twinkle in his eye, and he was like, "Can we get a do-over?" And we both started laughing because we had the reference point of this book.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
And so we just think it'll make it lighter, you know, for, you know, you can say to your, your kid, like, "Hey, why don't you, why don't you be like Biga and go to your brother and I and say, 'Can we get a do-over?'" It's just a, it's an easier lift for them.
Is Grey Divorce on The Rise Because of Bad Communication?
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Joy EggerichsGUEST
And you're bringing in children who have different environments that they've grown up, or just even on the playground, you know, one family might do one thing, one might do another.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
And so do-over feels like it's a really accessible way to kinda say I'm sorry and I, I messed up how I communicated.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
Like, we, my dad and I, we got into a little thing this spring, and he, like, came to me with, like, a twinkle in his eye and he was like, "Can we get a do-over?" And we both started laughing because we had the reference point of this book.

Joy EggerichsGUEST
And so we just think it'll make it lighter, you know, for, you know, you can say to your, your kid, like, "Hey, why don't you, why don't you be like Biga and go to your brother and I and say, 'Can we get a do-over?'" It's just a, it's an easier lift for them.
