Why don't we have these guys, Giacalone?

Well, I would say that they're juveniles, and they probably haven't been arrested yet, and their fingerprints aren't in the system.

We also have their shirts 'cause they removed them, uh, as part of, uh, you know, to be able to blend back into the crowd.

So to me, that means that these guys have done this before, and you can even see the guy in the, in the gray sweatshirt.

He knows where the cameras are.

He, a couple times he ducks down, he pulls his thing down.

He knows where the cameras are coming up.

So my point is even if they're juveniles, what about getting those prints? Aren't juveniles' prints in a database? And what can you tell me about ballistics? Don't you think this bullet or shell casing has been entered into NIBIN, the national ballistics database?

Why don't we have these guys, Giacalone?

Well, I would say that they're juveniles, and they probably haven't been arrested yet, and their fingerprints aren't in the system.

We also have their shirts, 'cause they removed them, uh, as part of, uh, you know, to be able to blend back into the crowd.

So to me, that means that these guys have done this before, and you can even see the guy in the, in the gray sweatshirt.

He knows where the cameras are.

He, a couple times he ducks down, he pulls his thing down, he knows where the cameras are coming up.

So this is probably part of a pattern.

So my point is, even if they're juveniles, what about getting those prints? Aren't juveniles' prints in a database? And what can you tell me about ballistics? Don't you think this bullet or shell casing has been entered into NIBIN, the national ballistics database?

Uh, what, what's your thoughts on this?

That is the exact thought.

I mean, we know that District Attorney Ray Tierney said it was basically for educational kind of thing, where they want to learn about it.

This wasn't about future prospects of prosecution.

But Josh, you kind of hit the nail right on the head as far as I'm concerned, and that is this guy used their, quote-unquote, textbook against them.

And I think we're gonna look at this and say, you know, "Are we putting out too much information? Are we giving up too many clues about how we operate, how we think as investigators?" I mean, this is, this is something that should be a concern now, because why? It comes up in Kohberger, too, right? You have a PhD student in criminology.

Bryan Kohberger was a PhD student studying criminology classes at Washington State University.

In law enforcement, two make a pattern, right? So if you look at Kohberger and you look at Rex, you have a pattern now.

So are there just suspected other bodies that have not been uncovered yet? Or do we really think the killing stopped at that point?

Yeah, well, I think if we think that he's just stopped with sex workers, we know that's not true because just recently, like you said, they came up that he was in contact with, I think they said 60 sex workers.

60, not six, six zero, right? So, I mean, talk about off the charts craziness, right? What happened to all those things? I'm sure they're trying to investigate all those interactions.

But if you also remember too, they recovered 50 hotel access keys, right? Right.

So not the key, but, you know, the old the old hotel situation, you actually had a physical key.

You know, now they have those little cards.

So they found they call them access keys.

is a case like this a dream for you guys to work or an absolute nightmare

And you're like, lady, I agree with you.

Yeah, well, and that was the whole thing.

What she was saying wasn't out of the realm of possibility, right? I mean, she was basically saying, like, how could this not be? You know, here's the problem with what happened yesterday.

Let's just talk about that first.

The medical examiner, unfortunately, is behind the eight ball.

She's dealing with a case that the body's not in front of her.

She's just reading from reports.

Oh,