I seem to have been doing this for so long and it's so good.

I don't know if many of you remember back at the AFL place.

Can you remember that far back? Some of you can.

Have a wonderful day.

I was preaching recently at another church, a church that I had a lot to do with over many years, like Bridgie, and they gave me this sort of welcome like that and applause and there was a nice, warm round of applause, appreciation for me coming and preaching.

But there was a guy in the front row that stood up in the middle of that, and started to really clap really, really loudly, and I didn't even recognise him, you know, so I thought, gosh, he really must have been touched by my ministry, you know, isn't that wonderful, you know, so I went up afterwards to find him, you know, I thought I'd better find out how much impact I've had on this guy, and And I found him and I said, I said, oh, look, I'm not even sure who you are.

John, in your time in the force, would you be in favour of drug testing for members?

Yeah, thanks very much for having me on, Andrea.

Now, my time in the force, I started in the early 90s and I, you know, I spent most of my career in, you know, a specialized area, so I wasn't frontline policing.

But, you know, I would be in favor of drug testing.

You know, it's a high-risk job.

And, you know, especially the frontline members, you don't know what you're facing into every day.

So you have to be, your judgment has to be there.

Yeah, well, it can only

After the incident happens, you're there.

Yeah, I've been on a couple of jobs where, you know, you were kind of a little bit on edge.

I remember one particular job down in Limerick at the height of the kind of McCarty-Dundon feud down there.

And, like, we were working away at the scene, but in the background we could see, like, armed Gardaí were there to protect us.

You know, that was kind of unnerving.

Another job we were sent out on, it was a big, oh, it was, nobody told us what it was.

It was a secret thing or something, which is unusual.

How do detectives stay objective during emotional cases?