You got a hold of Mike Wallace and said, hey, let's tell this story before they

could stop you, right? I caught him by surprise, because I had The Justice Department and the Pentagon were flatly opposed to me doing this story.

But I had every security clearance in the world.

I had to submit it to CIA, and they did all the censoring for the government.

So they censored a few things out.

What they didn't know was that most of the CIA was on my side.

And so as soon as the book was declassified, I put it right in the hands of 60 Minutes, and Mike knew it was coming.

So, You know, what are your thoughts about the military industrial complex and the situation we find ourselves in today?

Uh, and there was a complete, um, operational framework, okay, that these people had, the people in the positions, so that they could do that to Mark, you know? And, and so, um, John, you live in Florida.

Yeah.

And this is, sadly, I'm not a member of the Florida Bar.

I was the headquarters of the criminal division.

But the Florida Bar is awful.

I've had some personal experience with a case of pollution, and it was, it involved some very high-level people.

The tar balls were all over Florida.

Um, Mr. Loftus.

What are your thoughts? Well, you

know, Hillary Clinton said recently that she loves the people of Israel.

She hates Netanyahu.

And I think that you get one politician who has sort of, not say sold his country out, but he's doing it, as Ari said, for his own political ambition.

Now, Aaron and I might not agree on a lot of things, but we both agree on that.

This was just wrong.

It was a war to distract the Israeli public from the fact that Netanyahu was involved with corrupt activities.

So how can we survive? Is this world going to get past this or is this the big Armageddon in the Middle East? Who wants to take that?

right so uh you know uh john let me let me ask you your thoughts about about what tom has said here well i

i do recall it when hitler lived in berlin uh yeah i think it was the second floor condo the guy across the hall was jewish from hitler let's say hello to each other than always you gotta remember in those days uh berlin the population was something like 30 percent Jewish had a very high percentage, the highest in Europe at the time.

And it was non-common to have a Jewish milkman or a Jewish grocer or a Jewish tailor.

It was just part of life.

And what an irony that Hitler would fall for the whole gigantic Jewish conspiracy theory.

It turns out that it was the Russians that put that out.

People can be complex, but just because Hitler had a few dozen Jewish acquaintances, I don't think you can call any of them really friends, but he had no close relationships with Jews, as far as I know.

While she was Jewish, she brought the Hitler salute at that stage in the Olympics.

I mean, well,

I think there's a more cynical thing.

religion can be a divisive wedge break the voters apart break the countries apart when the ss asked hitler which religion should we favor in the invasion of russia he said neither just let them beat each other's skulls in with their crucifixes he used existing religious divisions to accomplish a political goal um i think it's a pretty cynical thing to say but i think a lot of times governments will do that You know, I reminded of JFK running for president, and he was saying, look, I don't take orders from the Vatican, made it as clear as it could be, but it continued to follow him throughout the campaign.

It was a good wedge issue for taking votes away.

He barely was elected.

And of course, not knowing as much as perhaps I know now after delving into the world of Scientology and and things, I clearly didn't understand what that evolution was all about and who was directing it and who was recruiting those people within religion to form particular ideas where political control was concerned.

There's a wonderful myth about how the pilgrims came to America to have religious freedom, but the reality in Massachusetts was, I'll give you an article, that the Puritans had the highest rate of illegitimate births of any group in American history.

Wow.

I mean, when you were working for the Justice Department, I mean, did that corruption, did they just hide it or did they not

know about it? You know, I was kind of naive.

I started up as an honors program law clerk for the Attorney General under the Carter and the Reagan decision, but I became, when I passed the bar, an attorney for the United States, then a supervisor of the attorney.

I was only a justice for four years, but I had every security clearance with a book.

I was astonished at the levels of corruption that went on.

I didn't see money being passed.

But money just disappeared.

Yeah, my daddy was a spook, and I read a lot of books, and I look into it, and I see, you know, I mean, the federal government sends out lots of money, and these guys have figured out, well, how can I get it to go into my pocket, you know? And the corruption

and they had actually invited Eric Traub, but he could not attend because he was in Iran at the

time.

Eric Traub, by the way, was a Nazi expert on biological warfare who was picked up by the Russians at the end of the war and then sold to the CIA.

So he was actually testing out Russian strategies for biological warfare on Americans.

And the thing that they were testing was Lyme disease, because you could trace it all over the country.

It gave you a bullseye rash about 40% of the time, a little red rash with a big red circle around it.

So they used it to test vectors.

And so, John, you want to tell us about the factory that exploded in Russia in September of 2019? Yeah, there was this,

Now, John, how old were you when you were given the keys to the Nazi files?

Oh, geez, I think I was 27.

Actually, I started as a law clerk, an honors program law clerk for the Attorney General of the United States.

Every year they'd get a few dozen recent alumni and graduates of law school.

And, uh, so, and once I got there, I was the only one that had been an army officer and had security clearances prior.

So I had pretty much nowadays, easy to call it a Royal clearance.

I was a top secret, uh, Security compartmentalized information, which is basically wiretaps.

Amendment 26.

But if you guys can find some corruption, please just, you know, definitely shoot me an email or a text.

The, you know, I had a friend who went through, he's an American, grew up in American intelligence.

His dad was Franklin Roosevelt's liaison to the Vatican.

And he said that, you know, going to these public schools in Britain, that there were people, this was the same school that Angleton went to, for example.

that it was sort of kind of an open secret that, you know, people did have these relationships, but any kind of bisexual or homosexual relationship was considered so scandalous that it was a felony.

You could never be talked about.

It was the ultimate blackmail material.

Don Bowles died from a bomb there, too.

You

know, one of the things I'm going to be writing about in my next book is one day in my law office, a bunch of young men came in to see me, and they're Jewish, and said, we're part of an organization, and if you give us the names of the Nazi war criminals in America, we will kill them.

I said, oh, okay.

And I sat them down and said, look, boys, we don't want you to do that.

I gave them all the normal reasons why.

But I immediately reported them to the FBI.

And nothing was done.

And however we need to do that, we just need to do that.