And that's the kind of actual disconnect that I don't think that is really properly examined.

Yeah, no, I have quite a lot of sympathy for that, actually.

Like there was there was a quote I saw in a couple of stories about from someone saying that like recruiters expect them to kind of show like their entire week has been around this half hour interview.

to kind of show that they really want the job.

And it's like, it is just one thing in my day because you're going to see a dozen people and probably not going to get the job.

Like, why do I owe something that you do not owe to me? And I think there is like a huge generational disconnect on that.

There was a very interesting quote in the Forbes piece, which I was surprised as well.

There's nothing at the end of

Does it seem there's a little bit of reality kicking in for him, a little bit of the honeymoon bounce being a

bit over? I think there's probably a little bit of that.

I think he needs to watch that because I think optimism was a big thing he was bringing to the table.

I don't think you can actually win by going around saying, oh God, it's awful and it's going to get worse, as we learned from Keir Starmer.

But also there's been these briefings about people inside going, oh, turns out the numbers are worse than we thought.

It's like...

They're not, though.

What are their specific... arguments at the moment around them wanting to to slow down what they're saying is going on

I mean, in the 60s, you saw that great big shift from the kind of British imposed names to much more African-led names that were reflective of the actual countries, albeit the horrible borders stayed in place.

And sometimes back, yes.

I mean, this momentary sort of conversation padding has given me a moment to think.

So I believe that the territory we now call the Democratic Republic of Congo was for about 30 years known as Zaire.

which was a word for the, I think it's even the word for the same river in the relevant African language, because the particular president slash dictator, whose name escapes me right now, wanted to kind of like be more in touch with his country's heritage, possibly as a way of distracting from some of the other things his government was doing.

So he changed the country's name.

But it does mean that... what was known to the West as the Congo during the colonial era became Zaire and then became the Democratic Republic of Congo again later.

I mean, are we likely to see more changes? Are maps constantly evolving? I mean, maps are

Remember it well.

Yeah, the s- the six crises that were hit in the early months of a, a new Labour government.

There is literally just not physically room for, for more prisoners.

So the Starmer government announced a scheme whereby people on, I think it was in t- nonviolent crimes were going to be eligible for early release where instead of having to serve, I think two-thirds of their sentences, it would now be half.

And so, like, the, the idea was that people who've behaved well in prison are going to be released early.

This is obviously quite horrific if you have been the victim of a crime.

You want to see justice to be done.

John, who's your loser this week?

What do we need to know about the role that Nigel Farage has played in UK politics?

Probably the most important thing you need to know is that it's all his fault.

He, you know, he is a longstanding Eurosceptic.

He was a member of the European Parliament for a thing called the UK Independence Party, which he led for many years, whose only policy really was Brexit, was Britain should not be a member of the European Union.

which makes it a bit upsetting that, you know, having been an MEP, Nigel Farage has quite a generous pension from that.

So he's still doing all right out of Europe, even if nobody else is.

But UKIP, like there's long been a strain of Euroscepticism On the right of British politics, it used to actually be a left wing thing.

What should we know about Count Binface?

Why do we have Europe? It, it just seems like it's a big western chunk of a big land mass called Asia.

Yeah, it does, doesn't it? I mean, continents are all to some extent kind of socially constructed.

They're made up.

But Europe is more made up than the others in that it's...

I- I- normally you get at least kind of a narrow isthmus between, say, North and South America.

You can see North and South America are two separate land masses with a very narrow bit in between them.

So it's reasonable to think of them as two separate things.

Hey, John, just to wrap things up, I'm wondering, how do you think the map of Europe will look different by the end of this century? 'Cause it's a work in progress, isn't it?