What happened? What happened with all of that? I know she was indicted, but the indictment was thrown out on a technicality.

Look, she should have and could have been indicted in New York on very serious mortgage fraud charges going all the way back to 1983 when she purchased a home claiming that her father was her husband.

And all the way through the 2010s when she took out these federal mortgages claiming her five-unit apartment building only had one unit, which gave her lower interest rates, on and on.

But in New York, they wouldn't prosecute her because she was the attorney general, and the state is kind of corrupt.

So they filed in Virginia for a case where she bought a home and told the mortgage company she would live in the home.

It would be her primary residence.

And, of course, she rented it out to her niece.

What's the next big thing you're working on?

What happened? What happened with all of that? I know she was indicted, but the indictment was thrown out on a technicality.

Look, she should have and could have been indicted in New York on very serious mortgage fraud charges going all the way back to 1983 when she purchased a home claiming that her father was her husband.

And all the way through the 2010s when she took out these federal mortgages claiming her five-unit apartment building only had one unit, which gave her lower interest rates, on and on.

But in New York, they wouldn't prosecute her because she was the attorney general, and the state is kind of corrupt.

So they filed in Virginia for a case where she bought a home and told the mortgage company she would live in the home.

It would be her primary residence.

And, of course, she rented it out to her niece.

What's the next big thing you're working on?

What happened? What happened with all of that? I know she was indicted, but the indictment was thrown out on a technicality.

Look, she should have and could have been indicted in New York on very serious mortgage fraud charges going all the way back to 1983 when she purchased a home claiming that her father was her husband.

And all the way through the 2010s when she took out these federal mortgages claiming her five-unit apartment building only had one unit, which gave her lower interest rates, on and on.

But in New York, they wouldn't prosecute her because she was the attorney general, and the state is kind of corrupt.

So they filed in Virginia for a case where she bought a home and told the mortgage company she would live in the home.

It would be her primary residence.

And, of course, she rented it out to her niece.

What's the next big thing you're working on?

When was this?

This was back in 2020.

It was kind of absorbed in the whole hysteria of the riots on the George Floyd case, but it was the same characters.

Kyle Sharpton and Ben Crump showed up at this small town and led these protests to get these guys arrested.

It's very similar to the George Zimmerman case that I made the film, The Trayvon Hoax, about where the local police investigated, they exonerated people, The people like Zimmerman was exonerated as a self-defense shooting because Ahmaud Arbery attacked Travis McMichael, tried to take his gun away.

And Travis was in a fight for his life.

If he let him take his gun, he would have been murdered.

What's happening?

So when did you find what did you start looking at where you started pulling threads that really started to show you, you know, beneath the surface of what we were dealing with?

Well, just out of curiosity, when Obama came on the scene during his first term, actually, I started to study him a little bit.

And I read his book.

It's a good starting point, Dreams from My Father.

And he kept talking about this guy named Frank.

The whole book was about Frank.

It really wasn't about the Kenyan student.

So go to MelKGold.com and get started today.

How are you, first of all?

Hey, good to be back.

Thank you, Greg.

Great job covering Chauvin last night on your TV show.

And this is kind of a forgotten case because it happened about the same time, and we had the same kind of woke justice system came after the McMichaels.

And to remind people of the story, Travis McMichael and his father, his father's a retired police officer, they're sitting in their house, and their neighborhood had been burglarized several times, and they had the guy on video, they'd seen a video of him of this black kid named Ahmaud Arbery.

And his father recognizes Arbery running by their house.

What does the appeal, what are they pursuing regarding the appeal?

That's not the case here.

No, he's got to either give them a check for $2 million or he can get a bond if he pays $600,000 non-refundable.

So that's the only way he gets out of jail is And the reason they do this is to make sure the person does not get out of jail until their trial, which is ridiculous.

They should send them home with an ankle bracelet.

Remember the kid in Kentucky, Carmelo, in Texas, I'm sorry, admitted murder of a Southern high school kid, and they sent him home with an ankle bracelet.

No problem.

So this guy is not a flight risk.

Where is he now? What the hell happened to Swalwell? And is he in legal jeopardy?

How are you? And thanks for all the work you're doing on this with me.

Okay, pretty good.

Well, I'm enjoying looking into it because, you know, every American is innocent until proven guilty.

And all the signs point to Bill Stevenson being railroaded in the state of Delaware, which I found out is not really a state.

It's more like this corporation, which Joe Biden has been sitting at the center of for many, many years.

So there's lots of anomalies in this case.

The biggest problem and the biggest red flag is that the state of Delaware will not release any information whatsoever.

Keep going, please.

Does it is it a nod back in that direction?

No, I don't think so.

I think it's too partisan now.

I think there were serious questions about Todd Blanche that are still hanging around because he was a Democrat candidate.

New York City attorney for many years.

And you've got this guy who's entrenched in the business world in New York for many, many years.

So he's kind of an institution guy.

And it just harkens back to, you know, if you tell the truth, you never have to remember what you say, right? But there are very lots of different versions because this is Bill Stevenson is right across the board about the Bidens.

Where do things stand right now? And hey, that's one hell of a quote, isn't it?

Yeah, you can just hear the anger in her voice.

I mean, she's recording an audio book, but she's angry during the recording.

It's just amazing.

Look, I did start looking into this because you've raised it on your show so many times, and it is fascinating to see if the Bidens possibly are pursuing some kind of vendetta against him.

And sure enough, I put in two FOIA requests.

I was actually directed to do that by the media representative at the Delaware New Castle County Police Department.

It's almost like a Freudian slip, Joel.

Joel Gilbert, welcome.

Okay, good to be here.

Thank you.

Uh, you know, filed a lawsuit a couple of months ago.

I'd actually ran into Swalwell at his town hall in Santa Monica back in January, and he came around and shook everybody's hand before it started.

There were only about 50 people, and I think he recognized me because instead of doing a two-hour Q&A, it was 30 minutes.

So I think he didn't ...

When you were doing your research and your due diligence on the issues related to his residency and the issues related to how he was spending his campaign, um, account, how the money in his campaign account, whether that was legal or not, did you ever hear any rumors from anyone about any kind of inappropriate sexual relationships with staffers, with interns, or any allegations of sexual assault or rape? Did that ever cross you?

Can you explain, so that the average person will understand, what is Swalwell violating?

Okay, so Swalwell, when he took out his deed of trust for his home in Washington, D.C., he told the bank that it would be his principal residence.

He signed it under penalty of perjury.

Now the California constitution requires that to run for governor, you have to be a resident of the state for five years prior to the election.

There's also something called election law number 349, which requires you to be domicile.

It defines what residence is.

It means it's a fixed location where you live and you intend to live there, you know, forever.

What would Swalwell need to do to prove you wrong?

What do you got, sir?

Well, don't forget Dianne Feinstein (laughs) was also penetrated by the, uh, Chinese intelligence for many years and not much really happened.

Uh, look, uh, Swalwell, we took a look at his mortgage.

He declared he bought and purchased a home in Washington, DC that he declared as his principal residence, uh, while not having any verifiable address in California.

According to the U.S. Constitution, you have to be an inhabitant of the state that you represent.

California Law Code 349, you actually have to have a physical address and live there.

Uh, Swalwell has big financial problems.

Why is that something that China hawks and- and people that are anti-CCP like, uh, you know, uh, Natalie Winters, War Room, Bannon, others continue to- to harp on? Why- why- why do people harp on the Fang Fang situation? What's such a big deal about it?

Your thoughts, sir?

I think maybe she was effective because it's not really a new argument.

In Israel for 40 or 50 years, especially on the right, they've been arguing that every time Israel gets in a war or makes a peace deal, it's the United States pressuring Israel by offering more aid or saying they're going to withdraw aid if Israel doesn't agree.

So even the war in Gaza was caused by Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2006 or 2007. in which the United States promised more aid.

The Egyptian peace treaty was based on the United States promising massive aid, and that hasn't worked out at all.

Egypt is still a hostile country to Israel.

They helped Hamas get armed.

What do you got, sir?

J- Joe Gilbert, uh, your thoughts?

Yeah, I'm with you.

Uh, I'm very nervous when I see that many people crowded around the president from so many different directions.

Uh, don't forget-

Yeah.

... a lot of these people, uh, have weapons, that are authorized to have weapons, but who knows if, you know, somebody has a beef, uh, you know? So I- I get a little nervous when there's not enough space between the president and, and a large crowd.

Um, what occurred to me, uh, just watching this is this whole spectacle is based on a misunderstanding.

I, I recall that, uh, you know, I visited Israel and Gaza was a pretty peaceful place at one time.

Joe Gilbert, your thoughts.

Yeah, I'm with you.

I'm very nervous when I see that many people crowded around the president from so many different directions.

Don't forget, a lot of these people have weapons that are authorized to have weapons.

But who knows if somebody has a beef? So I get a little nervous when there's not enough space between the president and a large crowd.

What occurred to me just watching this is this whole spectacle is based on misunderstanding.

I recall that, you know, I visited Israel and Gaza was a pretty peaceful place at one time.

Joe, um, Gilbert, would the people that built the nation of Israel, particularly the folks in '67 or '73, would they have made this deal? Would they have, and would they have been strung out for two years, part of this because of a hostage situation, sir?

No.

No, it- it changed over time.

Back in the '60s, they might have changed...

They might have exchanged one terrorist for each individual hostage, like 20, you know.

Uh, it evolved over the years up to the point where Bibi Netanyahu released 1,000 prisoners back in 2011, uh, for one Israeli soldier, Gilad Shalit, in Gaza that was kidnapped, and one of them was Sinwar who became the head of, uh, the head of Hamas and perpetrated the war.

So there's great concern when you release these 2,000 terrorists.

Is that transparency gonna throw this whole thing off the rails, sir?

Is that transparency gonna throw this whole thing off the rails, sir?

Uh, I think there's too many, uh, moving parts.

Uh, you've got these terrorists being released in Gaza, West Bank, all over the world.

People are gonna be concerned about what they're doing.

There's gonna be this e-economic initiative coming out of Egypt that Trump's gonna be a part of.

Uh, there's gonna be, you know, bulldozers all over Gaza clearing rubble.

Uh, there's gonna be so much going on.

Uh, Joel, give me a minute or two summary of your thinking as, uh, we get ready for the president to take the, uh, stage, the podium in the Knesset.

Joe Gilbert, your thoughts.

Yeah, I'm with you.

I'm very nervous when I see that many people crowded around the president from so many different directions.

Don't forget, a lot of these people have weapons that are authorized to have weapons.

But who knows if somebody has a beef? So I get a little nervous when there's not enough space between the president and a large crowd.

What occurred to me just watching this is this whole spectacle is based on misunderstanding.

I recall that I visited Israel and Gaza was a pretty peaceful place at one time, but Israel gave up Gaza to the PLO terror group under the guise of the idea that peace would break out, that all they really wanted was to have their own territory without Israelis and there would be peace.

joe um gilbert Would the people that built the nation of Israel, particularly the folks in 67 or 73, would they have made this deal? Would they have been strung out for two years, part of this, because of a hostage situation, sir?

What do you think that conversation inside the beast is right now, sir?

Well, I think hopefully Bibi is giving Trump some perspective with something like this, is that the Arab and Muslim countries have been promoting for years and years that the only problem in the Middle East is the Palestinians don't have their own state.

And they do that to avoid addressing the real problems that exist in the region.

It's the divide between Shia Islam in Iran and the largest Sunni population.

The Sunnis don't really consider the Shia Iranians to be real Muslims.

There's a huge divide between rich elites and poor masses.

The Gulf Arabs, the Saudis, the Qataris are hated by the masses of the people who are poor because they hoard the wealth.

So it was not just a wake-up call, it was a traumatic shock when the Muslim Brotherhood attacked, was it not, sir? No.

What Netanyahu is telling the people in Israel in Hebrew versus President Trump's mindset about this?

Well, Netanyahu stated early on and has consistently said that there are dual goals.

One is to release the hostages, and secondly is to disarm and dismantle Hamas and make sure that Gaza is no longer a threat to Israel.

Now, this came about because Israel had the foolish idea that by turning over Gaza to the PLO, to terrorist groups, that peace would break out back in 2006.

And they were woefully wrong.

Now Israel has said, OK, we were getting the hostages back, but I think that Hamas has no intention of disarming.

I think Hamas is looking to do the Hezbollah model in Lebanon.

There's been big emotional reactions in Israel in the past, and it just never pans out, does it?

But what is this? There's a fundamental issue here, and that is the Western interpretation of peace and the Muslim interpretation of peace.

That's correct.

In the Western world, in the Christian world especially, peace is defined through equality.

Everyone is equal, all religions are equal, and there's mutual respect.

According to Islamic values and the Islamic religion, peace only took place historically with Islam dominating society and with Christians and Jews in an inferior minority status, which they call the dhimmi status.

Now, in medieval times when Islam conquered lands where Jews and Christians lived, this was considered a very, you know, enlightened type of deal that Islam would dominate society and allow a special inferior status for other religions.

In modern times, in the Christian world, we think of peace as an equal exchange of ideas.

Does that really exist for anything? Is it just ephemeral, or does it really exist? in the Arab world, and particularly in the Gulf Emirates.

Hit it.

Look, all right, look, in general, Letitia James has to set the example.

She's the attorney general.

People look at her and they notice, and everything she's done, every mortgage transaction she did, it's tax fraud, insurance fraud, mortgage fraud, bank fraud, wire fraud.

Everything she touches is, is a crime.

Now, the biggest one in her New York apartment building actually, the first one I came out with on Gateway Pundit in March, she had a 10% adjustable rate loan on this apartment building, and she applied for a HAMP loan under the TARP program.

You remember the TARP program out of Washington, DC, out of US Treasury? She wanted to replace her 10% loan with a 2.7% loan on the back of the American taxpayer.

... for, for the one of the ones in Virginia?

Walk us through it, sir.

Okay, well, I can start walking you through it by telling you that, uh, the Democrats, uh, threw up Black prosecutors, Alvin Bragg, Fani Willis and Letitia James to go after Donald Trump on charges that they knew would not stick, so they looked at these Black prosecutors as cannon fodder.

They simply sacrificed them knowing that they would probably go down for what they were doing.

Sure enough, Tish James probably should not have been charging Donald Trump with trumped-up charges of mortgage fraud in New York, given the fact that New York is a public record state and that all of her mortgages for 43 years were online for myself or anybody else to pull up.

And what I found is a pattern of mortgage fraud going all the way back to 1983 when she was only 24 years old.

She purchased her first home with her father, claiming that her father was her husband.

They purchased it as husband and wife in order to help Letitia qualify for a mortgage that she was not entitled to.

Okay.

Hit it.

Look, all right, look, in general, Letitia James has to set the example.

She's the attorney general.

People look at her and they notice, and everything she's done, every mortgage transaction she did, it's tax fraud, insurance fraud, mortgage fraud, bank fraud, wire fraud.

Everything she touches is, is a crime.

Now, the biggest one in her New York apartment building, actually the first one I came out with on Gateway Pundit in March, she had a 10% adjustable rate loan on this apartment building, and she applied for a HAMP loan under the TARP program.

You remember the TARP program out of Washington, D.C., out of U.S. Treasury? She wanted to replace her 10% loan with a 2.7% loan on the back of the American taxpayer.

... for, for the one of the ones in Virginia?