How big of a deal is this and how concerned should we be?

We should be very concerned.

It's a huge deal.

First of all, what we have to realize is that the ongoing seditious conspiracy, which actually had a coup, a globally organized coup to overthrow Donald Trump between 2017 and 2020, has been an unending, I think, operation to destroy not Trump, but the voters who voted for Trump.

The voters who dared to say, you know what, the post-World War II order, the post-World War II endless war for profit machine, we don't want that anymore.

We want a new direction.

We want changes.

What are they doing now?

Right.

We also have, we have to remember, you brought up P- ProPublica.

Well, much of the left wing or progressive globalist, um, uh, journalists or independent journalists, they're funded by the Knight Foundation.

They're funded by the Craig Newmark Foundation.

They're funded by Pierre Omidyar and, uh, Democracy Fund.

Protect Democracy, to me, is the worst of the worst when it comes to, um, particularly lawfare and destroying people's reputations.

Well, Protect Democracy has already had 18 briefings with 333 journalists at 171 outlets going into the election cycle.

So unload on it, please.

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... fo- Dulles put Reinhardt Gehlen in charge of West Germany intelligence and took all of his men and swallowed them into the CIA, and many of them became people like that.

Then, uh, you know, later on we have the Five Eyes nations begins.

Well, they're doing it too.

So a lot of the intelligence that surrounded Hitler and Nazi Germany became ... supposedly allied intelligence.

And this is coming in.

And then the other part is, which a lot of people do not understand, is that they also wanted to get the best propagandists and the best professors and the best psych- You know, at that point, we didn't have behavioral, you know, um, sociology and all these majors at our universities.

And so if we can get people to read this, what do you hope readers will do or think differently after reading your book?

Is what you're reporting on in this book, the reason why we went to Korea, why we fought in Vietnam, which made no sense, why we stayed in Afghanistan for 20 years, in Iraq for 20 years, is all of that connected to this, Mel?

Yes, I believe so.

My belief is that, like I said, in 1953, the State Department went rogue, and I believe the CIA was never working for the United States.

I think the CIA, Five Eyes, and MI6 have always been working for the international supranational architecture built during those years while we celebrated the ally win.

They were still protecting their above-nations power.

That is still a problem.

So to me, I just think that the United States of America would do much better to end some of these things and bring our troops home and protect our own borders and make a different path for the future because this endless war for profit is the path.

So, I mean, is that true? Do you think that's an operation to shut people like you or the Pauls down or me down when we say, yeah, let's take care of America first?

Right.

And they're working with Volkswagen, and they're investing m- US dollars, a lot of it through the foundations, into Germany for, you know, reparations.

But what it's doing is it's building the base that would lead to Hitler's rising again, and they're all very aware of this, uh, obviously of what I can see.

And what happens is they start to realize that, um, this global supranational, uh, continuity system that they're all building, uh, needs some legs.

So as most people know about the Bretton Woods conference in, um, in New Hampshire, uh, that created the IMF and the World Bank, most people don't know that, A, at that conference the Bank of International Settlements was supposed to be closed after that conference, and of course it was not closed, and it still exists, and it is the most powerful bank in the world still today.

Uh, but n- number two, the Bretton Woods conference was four days after D-Day.

So the war is still raging while the international banking s- cartel, essentially the Wall Street side, is coming up with a new supranational world banking structure before the end of World War II.

Mm-hmm.

I mean, how successful were you with those scripts?

I was pretty successful.

I was there for 22 years.

You know, when you come – I had a lot of good mentors early on.

So when you come out of a school like NYU or USC or one of these schools that kind of are feeders into Hollywood – you do have an advantage because you know a lot of people before you get there.

So I didn't move there blind.

I moved to New York City when I was still a teenager.

Where did they come from? Have you looked into this?

I mean, how successful were you with those scripts?

I was pretty successful.

I was there for 22 years.

You know, when you come – I had a lot of good mentors early on.

So when you come out of a school like NYU or USC or one of these schools that kind of are feeders into Hollywood – you do have an advantage because you know a lot of people before you get there.

So I didn't move there blind.

I moved to New York City when I was still a teenager.

Where did they come from? Have you looked into this?

What made you come to Hawaii from Australia?

Originally, it was the pandemic and I was visiting a partner and my flight home got cut.

So I was not really able to go home without it being probably 15, 20 grand to get home.

And, you know, we kind of worked it out to sort of immigrate instead.

And, you know, I wanted to stay here.

I had, you know, family with him, with my dog.

And, you know, that sort of was just a part of my story, I think, which really humbled me, but got me to learn a whole new culture.

And then as you go, there's a transition there, and then you've got this here.

... that we could install a constitutional republic in the code of the software so it functions like a free speech network.

Yeah.

I think we have to start w- looking at really what BlackRock and Vanguard and all these people are, 'cause I saw Annie Jacobson was on, I think, Rogan, and she said that she went to DARPA and they were essentially saying like all the tech bros are above any nation.

So like where, where is this going? I, I just think the, the idea that the constitutional republic...

First of all, I think it got taken over in 1913, but I think it's still the same money, the same banks, the same architecture, and they're, they're protecting it.

And I think that, you know, this DSA movement, even the, even the care, all the care people winning, the Muslim Brotherhood people winning, all that, I think that they're winning by making us all hate each other and, and destroying, you know, the MAGA, destroying the podcaster world, destroying, you know, the DSAs fighting with the Democrats.

They're making so much chaos that I really think that they just wanna achieve Agenda 2030 and, and that's it.

I don't know what Ch- you didn't say that, I'm saying deep-

Mm

... at the end of World War II during Bretton Woods.

And I, I really think that much of what we're dealing with is that that financial supranational structure that is an endless war for profit, reconstruction, and endless war for profit, watch, wash, rinse, and repeat essentially, is over.

And they don't want it to end.

They don't want the post-World War II architecture to be undone.

And it's been nu- it's been terrible for the world.

It's been, uh, and I think people have had it.

Mm-hmm.

But what is the crucial part of 1944 to 1954?

Well, essentially what we're dealing with, yes, you're right, it happened.

The first betrayal of America was under the, I believe, treasonous Wilson administration.

And Wilson didn't only bring in the Federal Reserve, which is neither federal nor a reserve, and also the IRS, but he also brought in progressivism, which essentially they've been selling us for decades, the decline of America as progress.

So you are correct.

It happened earlier.

But what happened in those 10 years is essentially a global supranational financial architecture and an intelligence architecture was built above all nations by the international, what I call the international banking cartel, and the global public-private partnership, which of course includes NGOs like the Rockefeller Foundation But what really happened then is that a group of bankers, essentially, actually Wall Street lawyers, the Dulles brothers, spent World War Two essentially in Switzerland.

So essentially what

Mel K, welcome.

Thank you for having me.

Really excited to be here.

Thanks.

Absolutely.

OK, so tell everybody about your book.

Well, really, I think that the American people have to realize the one issue going on right now in the global push to collapse America is the constitutional republic.

And so let's talk about them in particular.

Well, I think it goes back to the post-World War I, you know, Smedley Butler and a lot of people after World War I came out and said things that I believe, which is Smedley Butler was war is a racket, but all wars are bankers wars that.

A lot of people that came out of World War I were saying this, like there was a model.

And look how we got into World War I, as sketchy as it is.

So, you know, you look at that.

But then there was after World War I, there was this Dawes plan and a Young plan.

And they're trying to figure out, you know, reparations for Germany to pay Europe after World War I.

That's what

So who are they? Who's the deep state? Who are these people who are infiltrating our government?

Well, I think we have to understand that much of the history we were taught post-World War II is not true and not true by design.

Many of the people that built a supranational architecture in the name of continuity planned for we the people never to be aware that our sovereignty had been usurped.

Of course, Alex Newman and I have talked many times, as I know you know, about the original, I think, betrayal of America, which was the Federal Reserve.

But those same families did not stop there, and nor did the creation of what i believe to be the multinational corporation slash international banking cartel that has created not only a supranational structure above all nations and an endless war for profit model but also has enlisted ngos and organizations around the world and i think it's important to know that this happened because in my opinion and my work two wall street lawyers Two Wall Street lawyers, we got to remember, the Dulles brothers, spent much of World War II in Switzerland.

And as we were told, Switzerland was neutral.

I have found not only was Switzerland not neutral, but frankly, what was going on in Switzerland in terms of creating the international architecture and the international banking system was actually using everyone, including Nazi Germany to negotiate the future of essentially world order and what they also did being good Wall Street lawyers was they gave themselves immunity so after creating um the Bank of International settlements was supposed to end right after uh D-Day you know a week later before the war's over before anyone surrenders uh you know half these countries are in new hampshire at bretton woods creating the imf and the world bank they all go back to switzerland the bank of international settlements lives even though it's supposed to end and they decide to give themselves immunity under the international organization immunity act of 1945 which not only protected the Bank of International Settlements, given extraordinary immunity and essentially no oversight by any nation or any entity, but it extended that immunity to the IMF, the World Bank and 63 connected banks that are international.

So what would you kind of rate his attack on the deep state so far? And what would you like to see happen?

So why did you decide to focus exactly on 1944 to 1954?

Well, you know, I've been touring for several years and I often start my speeches with JFK's speech from 1961 about the monolithic and ruthless conspiracy.

And in that speech, he says that what we are dealing with is infiltration instead of invasion, subversion instead of elections, intimidation instead of free choice, and guerrillas by night instead of armies by day.

Now, he made this speech in 1961, and everyone should know it was to the press because the press has always been a problem.

And I always kind of would say it.

I knew it by heart because I used his own speech a lot.

And I thought, I want to know exactly what JFK was talking about when he wrote this speech, because I believe that speech also led to him getting murdered, assassinated in front of the whole world.

Right.

And I think information that everybody needs to know.

All right, Mel, what are we talking about today? Okay, well, we're going to talk about multiple things that happened.

I'm a little frustrated.

I think we all are, all of us that put ourselves on the front lines all these years, you guys and me included, going out, talking to the people, praying, hoping for justice and accountability and truth.

uh transparency of which i don't believe our country has had at least since world war ii uh but i do want to go through a bunch of things that happened leading up to the 2020 election that your audience may not fully understand or know about um as we know there's a lot of d-class coming out what came out from um donald trump last week and it was not uh uh you know overlooked that NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC had no interest in covering Trump and just said that it wasn't real.

Well, that's not journalism.

Journalism is putting whatever the president says on TV.

And

You're an expert on that.

Yeah, I mean, here's what happened.

Essentially, after World War II, while our soldiers were still fighting and dying on the battlefields, the international banking system and the two lawyers from Wall Street who basically reconstructed our whole country died.

met in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, and they created a supranational financial system and then gave that financial system, which is the IMF, the World Bank, the Bank of International Settlements, and 63 other banks total and complete immunity from any kind of investigation, audit, legal action, and that is still in place.

It was the International Organization Immunities Act of 1945, which then the same group of people extended to the United Nations and 76 other tentacles of the United Nations, all still in place to this day.

And I think we have to first look at What happened then? And why did we never know about this? And how can we dismantle this now? And to me, that is the biggest picture.

And the issue is that I believe that COVID-19 was a pandemic.

What's next? Yes.

You're an expert on that.

Yeah, I mean, here's what happened.

Essentially, after World War II, while our soldiers were still fighting and dying on the battlefields, the international banking system and the two lawyers from Wall Street who basically reconstructed our whole country died.

met in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, and they created a supranational financial system and then gave that financial system, which is the IMF, the World Bank, the Bank of International Settlements, and 63 other banks total and complete immunity from any kind of investigation, audit, legal action, and that is still in place.

It was the International Organization Immunities Act of 1945, which then the same group of people extended to the United Nations and 76 other tentacles of the United Nations, all still in place to this day.

And I think we have to first look at What happened then and why did we never know about this and how can we dismantle this now? And to me, that is the biggest picture.

And the issue is that I believe that COVID-19 was a pandemic.

What's next?

Tells us, tell us what happens in 1947.

Okay.

Well, first, uh, in 1944 we have to remember is, uh, the, uh, declass is on, uh, my website, and anyone can see it, is the Red House meeting that happened in Strasbourg, uh, with all the bankers.

But Himmler was very involved in that too, and, uh, Schreff, uh, from the, uh, Nazi Reichbank, and also, uh, Montagu Norman from the, uh, Bank of England.

But then also a lot of the multinational corporation, um, leaders, like from IG Farben, and many of the companies that had one foot in America and one foot in Germany, uh, particularly were represented by Sullivan & Cromwell.

Uh, Sullivan & Cromwell is essentially what I believe, uh, the law firm that created the entire architecture we're talking about through what we still deal with today, lawfare to a certain extent, and, uh, manipulating legal language to protect themselves.

But the big move, which, uh, you are talking about, is, uh, the 1947, uh, uh, defense, uh, document or national document that created the CIA, the NSA, the Department of Defense, and, uh, two other tentacles of that.

Yeah

What do you make of it?

Well, what's interesting is, first and foremost, I don't think the American people have a full picture of who Obama was and who he brought into the White House with him, including the Secretary of Education from the, to me, communist teachers union in Chicago, came in when Obama did in 2008 and turned our Department of Education into an indoctrination camp, essentially.

with the help of Eric Holder and a lot of things that they turned upside down.

They entered in Common Core.

And there was a long time ago that Yuri Bezmenov, a defector from Russia, came and had a talk with G. Edward Griffin, and he said it would take one generation of students from kindergarten to college to turn this country on itself and demoralize the nation.

And essentially, that is what has happened here.

Our education system was a hub for indoctrination.

That is a bright spot, isn't it?

People are, the glasses are coming off and we're seeing it around us all the time, but you're sort of aware of the villains in the room, but then you come to hear your information and you realize even the structure that the room is was built by nefarious purposes by sheep and wolf's clothing in most instances.

Oh, yeah, a thousand percent.

And, you know, there's some main things that that the people of the United States need to understand.

The State Department was reconfigured by their own, you know, legal finagling and the protections that they gave themselves.

I really firmly believe that the United States taxpayer is not only paid for the entire process.

Cold War, but also for the entire, as we know, reconstruction of Europe, the fraudulent German Marshall Fund, the creation of the WEF and all that.

But the U.S. taxpayers also paid for the same model for the war on terror.

A lot of insinuations made about this, but what power does the CIA and divisions thereof have over the election machines and the processes and outcomes both in and outside the United States?

So can you give us a cliff notes on how we take back America?

Well, first and foremost, we have to understand those that seek to destroy America, they are not fighting on the federal level.

They are fighting on the local level.

And too many people are too busy with their daily lives.

I understand that.

But the entire game plan is to infiltrate through mayor's races in low turnout areas, and then also to go in and infiltrate in school boards and infiltrate in city councils.

This is a plan right out of the World Economic Forum and the entire global leader, young global leader mentality of capturing the country from within without even bothering to deal with the presidency or with the rest of the nation.

Well, I think the social credit score is right around the corner, but through your research, what is one of the craziest or scariest things that you've uncovered?

Show and the author of the new book, Infiltration Instead of Invasion: America Betrayed, Mel K. Mel, how do you see this convention playing out?

Well, I think it's really important.

First of all, we have to remember, we are being attacked from within.

So in America right now, we gotta focus on getting people aware that we the people of the United States are the answer.

We can't be, uh, constantly being barraged and p- uh, uh, from all sides.

We have to get together and remember what we're here for.

We're here for 250 years to celebrate the greatest country ever on Planet Earth, and to also take back our power because this country needs us right now, and I think it's great to get people together in person.

Um, what led you to write the book and, um, how much on the precipice of real disaster are we due to this infiltration?

Yes.

We don't know history.

And, uh, and that's a big part of why I wrote the book, because the, the truth is that, uh, since 1953, the State Department has not, uh, worked for us.

They, they are part of this international globalist entity, and they have looted and laundered all of our money.

In fact, they set it up so that the United States, essentially, their goal was the Fourth Reich.

After they laundered all the money out into America and elsewhere, uh, the goal was to rebuild the Third Reich for a Fourth Reich and a third try at what the goal was, which was destroying Russia, turning it into little pieces, stealing all of its, uh, natural resources, uniting Europe, and then running the world between Geneva and Brussels using the Bank of England and, uh, the Vatican Bank for the financial side, and then using the blood and the money of the US taxpayers to fund it all, and that is exactly what's happened.

The US taxpayers have paid for the entire Cold War, which, of course, was a war on a tactic, not an enemy, and the tacti- and the enemy changed any time they felt like it.

Ooh.

Uh-huh

... and their global public-private partners.

And you can trace it all the way back to the creation of the BIS.

Because after World War I, uh, the whole...

There was a, a Dawes plan and a Young plan.

Out of it came the Bank of International Settlements that was set up for reparations, you know, uh, for Germany to repay from what they had done.

But what really happened at the Bank of International Settlements is they refunded Hitler's army, and sadly enough, uh, that was Wall Street refunding Hitler's army.

And, and is depopulation part of their plan, or is that not obvious yet?